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    Rei'sela Leiyal
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    Tanking Mount Achievements? Wtf?

    Okay so Trusts don't give credit now but Unsynch dungeons still give credit to the 300, but not the 200?

    Trusts take longer, are a higher level dungeon why wouldn't they give credit? you can't say its because Npc's help, because Unsynch level 61+ dungeon requires no help at all.

    Oh and please don't waste my time telling me to do it in a party. I am aware of other methods I am just questioning why Trusts no longer count if Unsynch solo runs do.
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    It's probably because doing a dungeon/trial/raid unsynced can still be done with other people. Trust is solo experience, so there is no chance of helping anyone, while you can still help others clear a duty unsynced.
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    The tank mount achievements were put in place to get more people to play tanks - first in higher level duties, then they realised that tanks are also (or even more...) needed in everyday content aswell, so those dungeons were added. You earn the achievment because you're playing as a role thats less played and often the one other people are waiting for to enter the duty... so... if you play with Trusts you actually dont do that.

    The achievement isnt given for how much time you spent, its given for spending this time as a tank in a party - which can still be unsyched etc.
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    Well it either needs to be smart enough to recognize that there is no one else in the party, or Unysnch shouldn't count at all. Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KagatoAC View Post
    Well it either needs to be smart enough to recognize that there is no one else in the party, or Unysnch shouldn't count at all. Just my 2 cents.
    When you're using Trusts you're not using the Df to queue up for the duty in question, which is most likely how the system notices that you're not in a real party - maybe its even unintentional since the achievements were developed without Trusts in mind (since Trusts werent a thing until a few months ago).
    Getting the system to detect wether or not you're by yourself might be a bit more difficult - might be possible to just not let unsnyched runs count at all, but I dont really see the point of that...
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    Larek Darkholme
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    I think you completely missed the point of the achievement.
    It is a "thank you" for playing tanks in DF (least played role) and helping the queues .
    You are not helping anybody using the trust system.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    (least played role)
    Healers: Jury is still out on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    When you're using Trusts you're not using the Df to queue up for the duty in question, which is most likely how the system notices that you're not in a real party - maybe its even unintentional since the achievements were developed without Trusts in mind (since Trusts werent a thing until a few months ago).
    Getting the system to detect wether or not you're by yourself might be a bit more difficult - might be possible to just not let unsnyched runs count at all, but I dont really see the point of that...
    Completely locking out unsync might be unreasonable. Only partially related to the achievments, but many in our FC help out shruberry dps with low level mandatory dungeons due to queue times. Most aren't nice or patient enough for a normal queue so they just run them unsynced.

    Not... the reason they do it, or why the achivments exist, but hey, its something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    Healers: Jury is still out on this one.
    What is happening this expansion with healers is nothing compared to the tank shortage since the game inception.
    However, at this rate you might see healer achievement popping up in a few month indeed.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    However, at this rate you might see healer achievement popping up in a few month indeed.
    I doubt that. Tanks still get plenty of chances at being adventurer in need, and even DPS gets a few of those as well.
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