What Forge Ahead Actually Means

[aveyond-dreams]

The following is a short compilation of various moments that I found rung more true to the forge ahead message than the attempts of forcing the message in Endwalker. Because some of these contain spoilers for their respective works, they will be contained in spoiler tags.

In retrospect I cannot think of a worse message to pair with “killing” off the scions only to revive them 10 minutes later, to say nothing of the throwaway NPCs that were slaughtered in order to prop up this cast clad in the strongest plot armor I’ve ever seen or otherwise punished by turning into monsters for not “forging ahead!” hard enough.

I only hope in that in the future they take better care in choosing the message/theme of subsequent expansions and that they execute them better than they have in this one. Maybe just maybe have the main cast make some actual sacrifices that matter. Do not pretend to sell us “tales of loss and fire and faith” when Thancred is bragging about how they walked away with not so much as a scar to speak of in Endwalker.

Plague Tale

Rodric’s Final Moments



Amicia after Hugo’s Death

FFXV

Ignis Sacrifices his Sight



Noctis Sacrifices himself

FFIX

Brahne’s Death and the impact it had on Garnet

[Incinerator2]

A Plague Tale was a good game, good story, horrible optimization.

FF9 was excellent. Vivi was a standout character.

But FF15 is complete garbo and I actually just laughed at those two pictures in the OP.

[VictorSpoils]

A Plague Tale was a good game, good story, horrible optimization.

FF9 was excellent. Vivi was a standout character.

But FF15 is complete garbo and I actually just laughed at those two pictures in the OP.

IDK about Plague Tale, but FF9 is a complete basket case of a game, as is its fanbase. Nobody shed tears over the fat clown.

The impact of those two moments in FF15 is somewhat lessened by being able to freely go back and replay portions of the game before they occurred.

[Incinerator2]

IDK about Plague Tale, but FF9 is a complete basket case of a game, as is its fanbase. Nobody shed tears over the fat clown.

The impact of those two moments in FF15 is somewhat lessened by being able to freely go back and replay portions of the game before they occurred.

[Pratini]

Oh great another "EW story is bad reeeeeeeee" thread.

The majority of people love it.

Move on.

[SassyAssassin]

Oh maaaaaaaan I should have known better than to click on spoiler boxes……

[Saraide]

I feel like you're not even trying anymore in these threads.

[Atelier-Bagur]

IDK about Plague Tale, but FF9 is a complete basket case of a game, as is its fanbase. Nobody shed tears over the fat clown.

The impact of those two moments in FF15 is somewhat lessened by being able to freely go back and replay portions of the game before they occurred.

Alrigt hotshot whats YOUR best FF story then.

Tell me so that I may proceed to dunk on it with cold hard logic

[VictorSpoils]

Alrigt hotshot whats YOUR best FF story then.

Tell me so that I may proceed to dunk on it with cold hard logic

Hard to say, though any game where you spend most of it accomplishing nothing and/or helping the antagonists (*cough* FF4&9) will lose points. It's not just the story anyway.

[VelKallor]

Do not pretend to sell us “tales of loss and fire and faith” when Thancred is bragging about how they walked away with not so much as a scar to speak of in Endwalker.

THEY NEVER DIED by the way, they were torn into a different plane akin to that on the First. They were never "dead" to start with.

The sad part of your little screed is you are either blind or totally oblivious to the greater context. But you are, as you have said, a 20 something with no real life experience, so I tend to take your little diatribes with a huge grain of salt

I, on the other hand, heard and understood what the theme was, more importantly, WHY it mattered so much.

Id explain it, sadly, I am well aware of how little you actually listen to anyone..if you listen at all.