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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You're entitled to your opinion. Sorry but 20 is more than enough in my view. We aren't in an age where we need people to spam forums with their point of view. State your position and live with it. Having to respond to every reply isn't necessary.
    That'd make sense... if the limitation were per topic. Or if the limit were applied to people who were found to be behaving contrary to the ToS and thus on a "watchlist" for the mods. As blanket restriction, it is annoying.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Please tell me how it wouldn't be valid when the daily cap is a restriction placed upon users for their own good, just like how laws are restrictions placed upon citizens for their own good. You quite literally said 'restrict the many because of the few', and laws do just that. People just can't help themselves.
    Not everyone agrees with such laws - moreover, the scope of most laws is to limit harm to others. On a similar basis, you could argue for caps on how many hours a day you're allowed to play the game, for the players' "own good".

    Most people would dismiss that as abject nonsense.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 11-20-2019 at 08:12 AM.
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    not worth the time and effort

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    The actual reason was due to the (long closed) ARR Beta Test Forum being spammed to hell and back by a mass influx of new testers between phases 2 and 3 in 2013, so SE first introduced the posting restrictions there to try and bring some order to the chaos. Then, probably to head-off a repeat of that nonsense they also introduced similar posting restrictions here on the main FFXIV forum when ARR launched (which until that time had been for the old version of FFXIV - version 1.0).

    Once again, a minority of foolish people spoil it for everyone else: "this is why we can't have nice things" and all that.

    And speaking of 1.0, for those curious that is why the FFXIV forum has a 'five shades of brown' theme, it was to fit in with the theme of the old 1.0 Lodestone which had an old-fashioned look with backgrounds resembling aged parchment, and I guess SE never bothered changing the forum's theme to something newer when the game changed over to ARR.
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    Hyomin Park
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    The posting limit was one reason I linked my Discord in my signature. It’s really hard to hold an extended conversation about a topic with someone on a forum that is so incredibly limiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    That's why we have mods.
    We live in a society
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    This is a public forum, and people shouldn't be dictating whether an ignored person or not can post in "their" thread.

    I can't even post on the FF reddit, because I have too many downvotes, so this is like my FF spot. I do not see why just because 20 posts every 24 hours is enough for one person, that it is enough for another, nor should they be allowed to dictate that either. The post limit is arbitrary and needs to be increased, or removed entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You're entitled to your opinion. Sorry but 20 is more than enough in my view. We aren't in an age where we need people to spam forums with their point of view. State your position and live with it. Having to respond to every reply isn't necessary.
    You mean the very thing you're doing here?
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Isn't that the same reason we have police and laws? Hm...
    Um... are you being serious?
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    And yet I still see trolls dwelling on the forums. Daily cap helps mitigate that.
    It really doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    You mean the very thing you're doing here?
    Yes responding to frivolous posts like this one is a perfect example of why the limit should stay at 20. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to illustrate my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Yes responding to frivolous posts like this one is a perfect example of why the limit should stay at 20. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to illustrate my point.
    Your point boils downs to pettiness ("I don't want to see people I dislike being able to post more") and lack of self-control ("I'd go and reply to every post directed at me, if I had the chance to"), making you a bad example and a fringe of the population, therefore your point is ill fit to apply to everyone else.

    Just because you don't want to see X user posting more and couldn't stop responding to people, doesn't mean everyone should be limited. Besides I've seen too many good discussions stiffled because one of the people ran out of daily posts. Not every thread is a debate where you only need one post to make your stand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    making you a bad example and a fringe of the population, therefore your point is ill fit to apply to everyone else.
    Oh so how did you determine I represent a fringe of the population? Have you conducted a comprehensive survey of the forum population and know this to be a fact? I'm entitled to an opinion that the current limit is fine. I don't need to clear my view with you before I post it.

    My experience is those who run out of posts are generally involved in exactly this type of back and forth. Calling my view petty doesn't stimulate good discussion. Carry on I'm done responding here.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 11-19-2019 at 10:28 PM.

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