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    My one request for The Firmament

    When it is done, there had better be a memorial / statue / shrine / whatever for them.

    You know who.

    Edit - By "them" I mean that as the plural, for the record.

    She deserves it just as much.
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    Last edited by Malmstrom; 11-20-2019 at 05:59 AM.

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    No, thank you.

    It'll probably happen for the fan service factor alone, but the death of the character in question has been milked enough at this point. Nor is he deserving of special treatment when there's so many other regular Ishgardians who laid down their lives for Ishgard's sake. They're far more important in the grand scheme of things.

    I'd prefer to see a generic memorial devoted to the fallen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    When it is done, there had better be a memorial / statue / shrine / whatever for them.

    You know who.
    Thordan? :^)

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    No, thank you.

    It'll probably happen for the fan service factor alone, but the death of the character in question has been milked enough at this point. Nor is he deserving of special treatment when there's so many other regular Ishgardians who laid down their lives for Ishgard's sake. They're far more important in the grand scheme of things.

    I'd prefer to see a generic memorial devoted to the fallen.
    That said, I agree with this.
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    I think most just care that housing should be there.

    Only housing..
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    Don't forget that a certain lady also exists who played a major part in WoL learning the truth about the Dragonsong War and ultimately in peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    When it is done, there had better be a memorial / statue / shrine / whatever for them.

    You know who.
    Given the fact that Francel is in charge of the reconstruction and reveres our mutual friend just as much, there is actually precedent for this to happen.I

    The playerbase has been given many chances to champion our good friend, but having an actual monument for the people of Ishgard would be highly appreciated. This was a man with no true last name, but sacrificed all for his nation. I can think of no greater honor, and none who deserve it more. Truly a shining example of the struggles of Ishgard, even if they can only be recognized posthumously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimace View Post
    Given the fact that Francel is in charge of the reconstruction and reveres our mutual friend just as much, there is actually precedent for this to happen.I

    The playerbase has been given many chances to champion our good friend, but having an actual monument for the people of Ishgard would be highly appreciated. This was a man with no true last name, but sacrificed all for his nation. I can think of no greater honor, and none who deserve it more. Truly a shining example of the struggles of Ishgard, even if they can only be recognized posthumously.
    Plenty of other Ishgardians sacrificed everything for their nation.

    Haurchefant shouldn't be placed above them just because he was a friend of the Warrior of Light and Francel. He already has a grave/monument present in the game world that can be visited.

    He only died in the first place due to Aymeric's stupid decision to run off on his own, which is conveniently ignored to grant the protagonists plot armour against any meaningful and lasting criticism. The only Ishgardians who should be honoured with a statue are those who laid down their lives for the sake of a lie and who received very little fanfare for their sacrifice. That'd go a long way towards helping the nation heal rather than having it fawn over one of the most overrated characters to ever exist in a Final Fantasy title.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 11-19-2019 at 03:02 AM.

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    ... dumb question. Just like with Shirogane, people can enter the Firmament (if we assume it becomes a Housing Ward) way before Heavensward MSQ. Wouldn't that statue be a spoiler for those yet oblivious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    ... dumb question. Just like with Shirogane, people can enter the Firmament (if we assume it becomes a Housing Ward) way before Heavensward MSQ. Wouldn't that statue be a spoiler for those yet oblivious?
    Are you all really okay with spoiling new-ish players, should it all play out that way? Because it's a legit concern of mine if the Firmament turns into a Housing Ward, and I don't see it brought up.

    Sure, it would be nice to hone certain characters, but not at the cost of ruining the experience of others.

    Theodric and some others brought up a really good alternative - a general monument of all the Ishgardians that lost/gave their lives sounds promising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Are you all really okay with spoiling new-ish players, should it all play out that way? Because it's a legit concern of mine if the Firmament turns into a Housing Ward, and I don't see it brought up.

    Sure, it would be nice to hone certain characters, but not at the cost of ruining the experience of others.

    Theodric and some others brought up a really good alternative - a general monument of all the Ishgardians that lost/gave their lives sounds promising.
    Could just be something they don't see until they reach a certain point in the MSQ. That tech has been used before, right?
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