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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    Still wish for a Beast Master class, doesn't even need to have an actual pet but make use of summoning monsters that aid you in various. From support to offensive etc

    I can imagine using a behemoth to summon a meteor for big aoe damage to manticore/cerberus type that give you a gap closer etc.

    And it wouldn't just be summoning, you would have your own weapon rotation then weaving into summoning pets.
    Only thing thinking would not have many delays on pets appearance, like a gap closer should be instant etc
    Pretty much this. AKA WoW's hunter class. They stole everything else, might as well "borrow" that class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    Still wish for a Beast Master class, doesn't even need to have an actual pet but make use of summoning monsters that aid you in various. From support to offensive etc

    I can imagine using a behemoth to summon a meteor for big aoe damage to manticore/cerberus type that give you a gap closer etc.

    And it wouldn't just be summoning, you would have your own weapon rotation then weaving into summoning pets.
    Only thing thinking would not have many delays on pets appearance, like a gap closer should be instant etc
    You do realize that we are more likely to get a beastmaster class that can only summon common enemies like dodos and opo-opos?

    I don't understand why people want beastmaster. It would be 99% boring model recycling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    You do realize that we are more likely to get a beastmaster class that can only summon common enemies like dodos and opo-opos?

    I don't understand why people want beastmaster. It would be 99% boring model recycling.
    SMN is 99% model recycling too now.
    And why would it be limited to dodos and opos when the Beastmasters of Bozja have things like Gryphons, Manticores, Dawon, etc?
    If BLU can get primal spells, there is no way Beastmaster is going to be limited to boring monsters. The dev team knows the importance of making things look cool (except the team behind scholar and bard apparently :P)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    SMN is 99% model recycling too now.
    And why would it be limited to dodos and opos when the Beastmasters of Bozja have things like Gryphons, Manticores, Dawon, etc?
    If BLU can get primal spells, there is no way Beastmaster is going to be limited to boring monsters. The dev team knows the importance of making things look cool (except the team behind scholar and bard apparently :P)
    Why would we tame Dawon? He is an actual character, not some random beast.

    Yeah sure, Beastmaster might get a behemoth here and there, but most of its kit is going to be boring, common enemies.

    What you are envisioning is almost assuredly not what we will get. Just look at BLU's kit--through level 50 it's just common enemy spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    Why would we tame Dawon? He is an actual character, not some random beast.

    Yeah sure, Beastmaster might get a behemoth here and there, but most of its kit is going to be boring, common enemies.

    What you are envisioning is almost assuredly not what we will get. Just look at BLU's kit--through level 50 it's just common enemy spells.
    Sounds like people want a beastmaster job based on the job in FFXI where they would temporarily tame a monster or use a consumbable petfood item to summon one. These were pretty much just common monsters. I don't recall them being able to tame NMs or HNMs. The named BST pets I can remember seeing all came from petfood summons.

    Given the feeling that SE appears to be trying to move away from pet jobs it makes me think if BST were added it would probably upset most of the people asking for it as it would end up being more like the Animist job that basically used animal based or themed spells like sheep count, 100% wool, catnip, tail wag, chocobo rush, toadsong, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    Why would we tame Dawon? He is an actual character, not some random beast.

    Yeah sure, Beastmaster might get a behemoth here and there, but most of its kit is going to be boring, common enemies.

    What you are envisioning is almost assuredly not what we will get. Just look at BLU's kit--through level 50 it's just common enemy spells.
    Sorry in advance, but you are getting on my nerves.

    All you do in the two topics discussing jobs is to spam 'I can't envision it'. Sorry you are that small minded and can't objectively judge a person's ideas. Maybe next time you play the judge on who's idea is legimate, maybe create a pro/con chart.

    It wouldn't grind my gear if you hadn't done it for 2 days straight now; and advance your unfounded negativity in same breath as rooting for 'blitzer'.

    To be clear, this not a personal attack. The negativity just gotten a bit excessive. This is supposed to be a fun, positive outlet.

    I mean, it's not like FF14 job skeletons are super hard to build.

    B Combo 1
    A Combo 2
    Y Combo 3
    X DOT

    ^ ogcd 15
    > ogcd 30
    < ogcd 60
    v ogcd 120

    B Egi Attack 1
    A Egi 2
    Y Egi 3
    X

    ^ Def CD 120
    >
    <
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    Last edited by Hoehenflug; 09-22-2021 at 05:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    You do realize that we are more likely to get a beastmaster class that can only summon common enemies like dodos and opo-opos?

    I don't understand why people want beastmaster. It would be 99% boring model recycling.
    Summoner is recycling, hell i could be the most unfun person and say they decided to look at HoH with the magicite and said "why not just put the primals attacks in SMN".
    It's al about how they want to use. BST is still feasible just like other classes that still could be put
    II want beast master because there's a big appeal on using beasts\enemy as a way to fight.

    People gets egi\primals, people get fairies, get a freaking mecha summon (Machinist) and now you get the freaking void from Reaper class. There are probably better ideas on how to implement BST but won't stop me from putting mine.
    BST can be much more exciting from the amount of monsters you can pick (coeurl, griffins, insects and so many more).

    They can also try and create actual named monsters that you tame, explain origins etc. There are many thoughts on the matter.
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    Last edited by Jettinson; 09-22-2021 at 08:21 AM.

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    Blood Mage, Damage version of paladin [eg: my shock trooper], blue mage full class, flying class, a class with proper pets
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    Bumping my BST comment.....

    Seriously, is XIV the only mmo without a true hunter pet class, despite BST being a class in the series, plus a staple mmo class?

    I only play XIV from time to time when there are events, like this month (Tryna get that XV car....)

    It would be my a main game in my mmo rotation if it had such a class; otherwise, I play other mmo being a pet class junkie.

    If Summoner was like XI summoner, that would be a different story......

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    Morpher; it would probably be a limited Monstrosity -esque system job though......I mean if Blue was.....there is no way they are letting people become Dragons in group dungeons.

    Summoner, I mean a real deal Holyfield summoner.....
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    DEVOUR: Blue Mages Are What You Eat........

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsutaMan View Post
    there is no way they are letting people become Dragons in group dungeons.

    Summoner, I mean a real deal Holyfield summoner.....
    So, why are actually unique Limit Breaks still not a thing? Such would, in a jiffy, allow for both these capacities without necessitating imbalance or a one-note toolkit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoehenflug View Post
    People lack the time and motivation to advance their ideas that won't get heard. If this thread was 100 successive posts of pure 'BST' spam, it'd probably have more impact than lenghty explanations. So it's still viable feedback.
    Sure, but the less detail they provide, the greater chance that the idea they advance will have little in common with what they actually desired and the less discourse develops to put forth more concrete (or, less "spinnable") feedback in terms of the actual gameplay loops, presence, attractors, etc.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 09-22-2021 at 07:11 AM.

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