war out tanking pld?

[retribution]

i don't know about you guys but this is getting stupid that warriors are better tanks then paladins. please correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't paladin ment to be the number one tanking job? i just feel like something needs to change for pld to gain more emnity, possibly make cures from pld gain more emnity, possibly better another hate ability? i was reading another post talking about even a possible refresh effect and i think if out maneuver is made more effect paladin will become the better tanking job

[Alerith]

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[indira]

stupid to have a guy with a big axe out tanking a guy with a shield. they fixed gla but broke pld wth??

SE need to fix pld quick well before 2.0.

[YuriSan]

WAR isn't a better tank than PLD. he just deals more damage.

HOWEVER:
Extra stats from Shield, Hallowed Ground, Divine Veil, War Drum, Aoe Flash, Cover, Stoneskin, Cure, Sacred Prism,
Aegis Boon, Outmaneuver, Aoe Rampart AND SUCH!!

Can't be outdone by Collusion and Antagonize (always imo)

And besides, Tank's job aint DPS...

[Koryu]

WAR isn't a better tank than PLD. he just deals more damage.

HOWEVER:
Extra stats from Shield, Hallowed Ground, Divine Veil, War Drum, Aoe Flash, Cover, Stoneskin, Cure, Sacred Prism,
Aegis Boon, Outmaneuver, Aoe Rampart AND SUCH!!

Can't be outdone by Collusion and Antagonize (always imo)

And besides, Tank's job aint DPS...

Why take someone who takes a little less damage when you can take someone with a larger hp pool and can help kill the enemy faster?

[Orophin]

Why take someone who takes a little less damage when you can take someone with a larger hp pool and can help kill the enemy faster?

That's the problem; Paladin needs to take a LOT less damage.

I always envisioned Warrior being the AOE trash tank, or single target tank to deal out more damage to help end a fight faster for weaker bosses.

Paladin should be the tank that does less damage but takes less as well. If they're not going to give Paladin a huge defense increase over Warrior, then they should at least increase their attack significantly, because a lot of people don't seem to want to take a Paladin as a tank, even after their "buffs".

[Nohmaan]

That's true - one big problem is that PLD's have about 75% as much HP as Warriors. And while they have more ability to self cure, when a mob is hitting you for 900 damage, the extra HP makes a huge difference.

I want to use my HP sentinel gear too, but then I loose the enhancements from the PLD armor. Even with the new adjustments, it's hard to keep a PLD alive.

And put a PLD and a WAR in a PT together and have them battle for hate, see who ends up getting it. PLDs have better AOE hate control for sure, but the enmity system in general is just baffling.

[SionDurant]

Mp regen - healing enmity output - damage reduction, PLD gets more interesting in group play. XI PLD was just fine.

[Fated]

Paladin tanks just fine in most situations. Coincounter is the only thing I can think of off the top of my head where a Paladin would have serious trouble due to max HP.

The problem is SE's infatuation with speed runs. Warrior fits the bill much, much better for those kinds of clears than a Paladin.

[HiirNoivl]

I have no problem taking damage or keeping hate on Paladin.

I do fine as a DD with +Attack Power Ifrit Blade and Rings.

My favorite thing in the event that I do lose hate, I stab the mob in the back with Riot Blade to Defense down it and then taunt it back into line.

That'll learn it... >.<