Loot roll timer have to be adjusted

[Deceptus]

Got in Labyrinth a WHM that decided to be carried until the end. He were doing just nothing. No heals, nothing. Only at the last boss he moved a bit, throw a couple medica.

But doing a couple actions only at the end of a 24 men raid, is still being afk imho.

Because the insane amount of time you have for rolling loot, he was able to get successfully carried until the end. And it suffice a friend of the offender engage/loot asap with no roll, in order to lock everyone else from votekick the afk.

One minute (or even less, I dare to say) I think is more than sufficient for someone to decide how to roll a piece of loot.

Edit: not to mention all the times you have to wait at the end of a duty for loot timer expire, because there is someone that goes afk after last boss killed and roulette exp/bonuses already applied.

First instance: Oh no! Someone got carried through content you VASTLY overgear. You're literally twice the min ilvl meaning you can do it with half the people. Also, if you notice it's an issue request your group not loot the next box and kick him/her.

On the Edit: Plenty of times people do this. You can do a few things. Auto Translate [Please roll for loot] that generally does the trick, or you alt tab for 3-5 minutes. Not a big deal.

[Doozer]

First instance: Oh no! Someone got carried through content you VASTLY overgear. You're literally twice the min ilvl meaning you can do it with half the people. Also, if you notice it's an issue request your group not loot the next box and kick him/her.

On the Edit: Plenty of times people do this. You can do a few things. Auto Translate [Please roll for loot] that generally does the trick, or you alt tab for 3-5 minutes. Not a big deal.

Do you not understand that people are specifically not rolling in order to avoid being kicked? If there's loot to be rolled on, a vote kick cannot be initiated. So as long as the offending party never rolls, the rest of the party/alliance is forced to put up with them. Asking them to roll won't change that.

[Moonlite]

First instance: Oh no! Someone got carried through content you VASTLY overgear. You're literally twice the min ilvl meaning you can do it with half the people. Also, if you notice it's an issue request your group not loot the next box and kick him/her.

On the Edit: Plenty of times people do this. You can do a few things. Auto Translate [Please roll for loot] that generally does the trick, or you alt tab for 3-5 minutes. Not a big deal.

You did see where they said another person was abusing the system to lock them out of kicking. Not sure how they would know they were together or not.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Two minutes should be more than enough time, in case one has to check if they have orchestrion rolls before Needing on them. Which I often do, because the game doesn't tell you if you have it when rolling on loot.....

[Eli85]

Honestly, who cares? It was Labyrinth. If he / she was actually doing something (namely DPS, as a miniscule amount of healing is required to clear Labyrinth), the clear time would not have decreased noticeably. So, no, the loot timer should not be changed for anecdotal joke content where kicking the afker in question would result in a barely noticeable clear time. Plus, the 5 minute loot timer needs to be there for i) prevent trolling kicks and ii) to let someone, who legitimately contributed, to come back in after a DC to roll on the loot.

[SenorPatty]

Honestly, who cares? It was Labyrinth. If he / she was actually doing something (namely DPS, as a miniscule amount of healing is required to clear Labyrinth), the clear time would not have decreased noticeably. So, no, the loot timer should not be changed for anecdotal joke content where kicking the afker in question would result in a barely noticeable clear time. Plus, the 5 minute loot timer needs to be there for i) prevent trolling kicks and ii) to let someone, who legitimately contributed, to come back in after a DC to roll on the loot.

It's easy to say "who cares?" as long as you have at least 4 people willing enough to blitz through the content. Bet you if you were consistently in parties where everyone decided to be like that healer, you'd be singing a different tune.

[Eli85]

It's easy to say "who cares?" as long as you have at least 4 people willing enough to blitz through the content. Bet you if you were consistently in parties where everyone decided to be like that healer, you'd be singing a different tune.

I'd just leave party and go do something else. This problem does not occur with anywhere near enough frequency to warrant wholesale changes.

[HyoMinPark]

Honestly, who cares? It was Labyrinth. If he / she was actually doing something (namely DPS, as a miniscule amount of healing is required to clear Labyrinth), the clear time would not have decreased noticeably. So, no, the loot timer should not be changed for anecdotal joke content where kicking the afker in question would result in a barely noticeable clear time. Plus, the 5 minute loot timer needs to be there for i) prevent trolling kicks and ii) to let someone, who legitimately contributed, to come back in after a DC to roll on the loot.

Personally, I don’t like carrying AFK players; and I don’t care if it is LotA or something “harder”. If someone isn’t going to participate in the content, then they don’t need to be there. Simple.

[Jybril]

Honestly, who cares? It was Labyrinth.

If I gotta do the dang 20 minute raid run for the 60000000th time, then you do too.

[MomomiMomi]

The timer is fine when you consider people who have (legitimately) disconnected. I hate not being able to kick people as well, but I don't think it should be changed.