Paladin Updates

[Takinagi]

the patch doesn't make PLD what it should be... but if you just love it... and want to play it... nothing will stop you... PLD can tank just fine... so play what you like



I just saw Mog do a speed run with a PLD AND a WAR in the entire run

OMG :O Doctor Mog did it with a War and Paladin!! I never said it couldn't be done. But war does a better job tanking and puts out more dps. This isn't rocket science...Pld is suppose to be the better tank and its clearly not.

[illriginalized]

This was a 12 minute run i belive, it was one of our avg runs soo 12-13 mins on my GLD, my PLD parses roughly 10k less damage on avg

Is that primarily due to Divine Veil? Did you pop off the 15 min (2hr in ffxi terms) ability?

I didn't use my 15 min. ability on PLD and my parse showed that Gladiator took less damage. But maybe it was screwy... I was trying to find a justification to use PLD over GLD.. I'll have to give it another go tomorrow.

[Alerith]

Divine Veil gives you 20... and I was just estimating with Aegis Boon, protect and the mages being up on their stoneskin game

I must have missed something. Where does it say Divine Veil renders you immune to physical damage for 20 seconds? It merely says it "blocks".

While I understand the wording could imply "It negates physical damage taken from the front", I understood it as "100% Shield Block".

Not trying to argue or anything, but we already have Hallowed Ground and even that doesn't last 20 seconds. Plus "Block" generally refers to a shield, no?

[Lux_Rayna]

This was a 12 minute run i belive, it was one of our avg runs soo 12-13 mins on my GLD, my PLD parses roughly 10k less damage on avg

Would love to see how it compares to a warrior parser! There's a lot of info in the thread that makes me a bit suspicious of the status quo.

[Peptaru]

You gotta wait for new parses after this update Rayna, Divine Veil should make a noticable difference in damage mitigation.

[Aceofspades]

Would love to see how it compares to a warrior parser! There's a lot of info in the thread that makes me a bit suspicious of the status quo.


well since each player brings his/her unique ability to the fight , give me a week to draw fair conclusive results and I will gladly post em

[Takinagi]

Oh great so we can tank ifrit now! HELL YEAH!!

[Firon]

Would love to see how it compares to a warrior parser! There's a lot of info in the thread that makes me a bit suspicious of the status quo.

I did ifrit this morning and we had war tank and all i know is that when both whms had cracks following them war almost died every time. Ifrit mauled him down in like 5 secs lol.

[TirionCrey]

If you can't do your job on Pld then you fail compared to youtube vid posters.... this should make you sad if you're so awesome. lol Lots of people run one whm for these situations, Mistress is almost all 1 whm, 1 war, 6 mnk burn now... Ant takes a couple good blm/thms not an extra whm, i do concede that chimera can be pretty tricky just because of the various mechanics in his(or her, idk chimera gender!) fight leading to more errors that can occur.

Please argue reasonable...yeah 1 WHM does work with a WAr and Meele Burns(cause Miser will be down before the first add phase).

This is not working with a PLD tank, cause he won't hold hate over WAR...what are you even arguing about, you talk about how PLD does the job just as well as WAR with 1 WHM and you can take another DD over the 2nd WHM which will make up for the DMG loss of a WAR tank, then in your next post you clearly disagree on your own argument with your Meele burn setup, which doesn't work with a PLD, cause he can't hold hate...

Get your facts straight before even trying to get on my back. Your 1 WHM setups only work with a WAR tank, which I clearly stated doesn't work with a PLD, while you argue it would, but then contradict yourself 5min later.

Try to argue logical and reasonable, before jumping back and forth between "this works, that works" when only one version of it does work, either PLD + 2 WHM, or WAR + 1 WHM.

If you got no clue what you're talking about, just stop talking. PLD hate is crap compared to WAR, so Meele/Mage Burn PTs do not work with a PLD tank, simple as that and all your arguments are contradicting themselves over and over.

[Alerith]

I did ifrit this morning and we had war tank and all i know is that when both whms had cracks following them war almost died every time. Ifrit mauled him down in like 5 secs lol.

He didn't have Aegis Boon and Holy Succor.