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    Player Eagleheart's Avatar
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    I'm not sure if you know what AOE means... but AOE rampart is indeed the biggest hate puller.. and no... WAR doesn't have that
    I would like to interject here.

    I spend most of my time as WHM, by necessity, but PLD is where my heart is. ('-' ) I wish to say that, embarassingly enough, I do not actually know if Rampart generates more hate by hitting more people.

    I do know that I'm not going to run to the mages every time Rampart is up, so that I can spike hate. I do not (personally) know anyone that does. (>> ) That practice seems... counterproductive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    I would like to interject here.

    I spend most of my time as WHM, by necessity, but PLD is where my heart is. ('-' ) I wish to say that, embarassingly enough, I do not actually know if Rampart generates more hate by hitting more people.

    I do know that I'm not going to run to the mages every time Rampart is up, so that I can spike hate. I do not (personally) know anyone that does. (>> ) That practice seems... counterproductive.
    It's a good way to grab massive hate at the beginning of the battle. Have everyone gather up, buff, engage, Rampart, split up and go about business as usual. However you're right, after that initial pull it's really hard to get everyone together just to use Rampart and at that point it's just about as effective on WAR as it is on PLD.
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    Player Eagleheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    It's a good way to grab massive hate at the beginning of the battle. Have everyone gather up, buff, engage, Rampart, split up and go about business as usual. However you're right, after that initial pull it's really hard to get everyone together just to use Rampart and at that point it's just about as effective on WAR as it is on PLD.
    I'll definitely remember to stay close to other party members for the first Rampart, then. o.o Good to know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    I would like to interject here.

    I spend most of my time as WHM, by necessity, but PLD is where my heart is. ('-' ) I wish to say that, embarassingly enough, I do not actually know if Rampart generates more hate by hitting more people.

    I do know that I'm not going to run to the mages every time Rampart is up, so that I can spike hate. I do not (personally) know anyone that does. (>> ) That practice seems... counterproductive.
    well, in a balanced party, you'll have melee close enough to you to make it productive...
    Obviously in WHM WHM BRD BRD BLM BLM BLM parties it is less productive... but even then there are ways to make it work...

    But when you've got DRG, WAR, and MNK with you... you can quadruple the enmity gained from Rampart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    I would like to interject here.

    I spend most of my time as WHM, by necessity, but PLD is where my heart is. ('-' ) I wish to say that, embarassingly enough, I do not actually know if Rampart generates more hate by hitting more people.

    I do know that I'm not going to run to the mages every time Rampart is up, so that I can spike hate. I do not (personally) know anyone that does. (>> ) That practice seems... counterproductive.
    In the Ifrit fight for example, there are opportunities for the mages to run to the PLD. My LS uses that strat when I tank on gla/pld. It's also one of the very first things I do in the fight as pld/gla.
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