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    My Ishgardian Rotation:



    Uses NQ Popotoes au Gratin, 2305 base Craftsmanship, 2532 base Control. I had to use the specialist bonus +FC Buff to hit that control, but you could do it with max melded MH/OH, which I ain't doin, lol.

    The rotation works just fine without specialist or food for around 39k finishing quality, which is more than enough.

    Out of curiosity, I made a rotation with the lowest stats I could manage. Uses Blood Bouillabaisse NQ, and the Craftsmanship is only 8 above the cap requirement to even attempt the craft and the Control is ridiculously low, so as long as you have the CP, which is also nowhere near the cap, you can do this rotation.

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    Last edited by Espritduo; 11-14-2019 at 07:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post

    Out of curiosity, I made a rotation with the lowest stats I could manage. Uses Blood Bouillabaisse NQ, and the Craftsmanship is only 8 above the cap requirement to even attempt the craft and the Control is ridiculously low, so as long as you have the CP, which is also nowhere near the cap, you can do this rotation.

    This one interests me greatly, since my stats are 2152,1984, and 464 without food. So I'm guessing the rotation is just looking at the images
    Reflect
    Manipulation
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Prudent
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Delicate
    Prudent
    Prudent
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    Ingeunity
    Prepatory Touch
    Great Strides
    Byregot's
    Observe
    Focused Synth


    I'm new to this all so I just want to make sure I have this down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    This one interests me greatly, since my stats are 2152,1984, and 464 without food. So I'm guessing the rotation is just looking at the images
    Reflect
    Manipulation
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Prudent
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Delicate
    Prudent
    Prudent
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    Ingeunity
    Prepatory Touch
    Great Strides
    Byregot's
    Observe
    Focused Synth


    I'm new to this all so I just want to make sure I have this down.
    You could use my rotation, it uses a bit less CP than Caimie's and with your low stats, you are still able to reach the needed 3'500 collectability. However, due to your low CP you need Food buffs.

    /ac Reflect <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Master's Mend" <wait.3>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>

    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Craft finished <se.3>
    It uses 541 CP, so you need to eat HQ blood bouillabaisse and cunning tea (HQ) or syrup (NQ).

    With higher stats (more craftsmanship and control) you can change the rotation to replace one delicate synthesis with a prudent touch (saved 7 CP) and delete the last prudent touch (saves 25 CP), so you only need 509 CP. This is what I do.
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    Last edited by Seyb; 11-15-2019 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyb View Post
    You could use my rotation, it uses a bit less CP than Caimie's and with your low stats, you are still able to reach the needed 3'500 collectability. However, due to your low CP you need Food buffs.



    It uses 541 CP, so you need to eat HQ blood bouillabaisse and cunning tea (HQ) or syrup (NQ).

    With higher stats (more craftsmanship and control) you can change the rotation to replace one delicate synthesis with a prudent touch (saved 7 CP) and delete the last prudent touch (saves 25 CP), so you only need 509 CP. This is what I do.
    Oh I'm totally okay with that since the furthest I've ever gone craft wise is making HQ Grade 1 Tinctures back in 5.0. So making the food and getting the Tea/syrup are totally fine by me. I've just been rocking Grade V materia I had leftover from maps so I'm not going full ham on my gear until I head into crafting the Facet gear so I'm glad there's options for people like me because food and the like I was expecting to use.

    I'll start gathering those mats and trying it out and hopefully it goes well. Thank you very much for the input! <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    This one interests me greatly, since my stats are 2152,1984, and 464 without food. So I'm guessing the rotation is just looking at the images
    Reflect
    Manipulation
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Prudent
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Delicate
    Prudent
    Prudent
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    Ingeunity
    Prepatory Touch
    Great Strides
    Byregot's
    Observe
    Focused Synth


    I'm new to this all so I just want to make sure I have this down.
    That rotation needs 583 CP though. You will need some strong CP food if you only have 464 CP.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    This one interests me greatly, since my stats are 2152,1984, and 464 without food. So I'm guessing the rotation is just looking at the images
    Reflect
    Manipulation
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Prudent
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Delicate
    Ingenuity
    Innovation
    Delicate
    Prudent
    Prudent
    Great Strides
    Innovation
    Ingeunity
    Prepatory Touch
    Great Strides
    Byregot's
    Observe
    Focused Synth


    I'm new to this all so I just want to make sure I have this down.
    If the CP requirements are too high, I made another one that requires a bit more Craft and Control, but less CP. The Craft/Control just happen to coincide with your stats, so it might be more useful for you:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    If the CP requirements are too high, I made another one that requires a bit more Craft and Control, but less CP. The Craft/Control just happen to coincide with your stats, so it might be more useful for you:

    Molto bellissimo! I'm assuming with food the best recommended would be Blood Bouillabaisse (HQ) to help ease the pain for my lack of control?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Molto bellissimo! I'm assuming with food the best recommended would be Blood Bouillabaisse (HQ) to help ease the pain for my lack of control?
    If you have 1984 Control without food, you already have more than enough to do the rotation, since the 1981 needed is the Control after food (all the stats in my posted rotations are simply what is needed to do the craft, with food already applied if needed). Only reason you would want HQ over NQ Bouillabaisse (which can be bought from NPC's) is for the extra CP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyb View Post
    You could use my rotation, it uses a bit less CP than Caimie's and with your low stats, you are still able to reach the needed 3'500 collectability. However, due to your low CP you need Food buffs.



    It uses 541 CP, so you need to eat HQ blood bouillabaisse and cunning tea (HQ) or syrup (NQ).

    With higher stats (more craftsmanship and control) you can change the rotation to replace one delicate synthesis with a prudent touch (saved 7 CP) and delete the last prudent touch (saves 25 CP), so you only need 509 CP. This is what I do.
    I used your rotation first to test it out and it worked out great! I used HQ BB and I almost always hit the right amount of collectable rating, just minus some bad poor procs at the wrong time which is to be expected. I didn't end up using the tea but the HQ one got me the results I needed almost every time. It was my first time using a crafting macro and I was shocked to see how easy it went by.

    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    If you have 1984 Control without food, you already have more than enough to do the rotation, since the 1981 needed is the Control after food (all the stats in my posted rotations are simply what is needed to do the craft, with food already applied if needed). Only reason you would want HQ over NQ Bouillabaisse (which can be bought from NPC's) is for the extra CP.
    I ended up trying yours as well since I wanted to see the difference and it also worked great as well. I was still riding on the HQ BB from Seyb's rotation and I pretty much got the same results. I'll most likely run through the rest of my BB's then cut it down to yours with some cheap tea to see how it goes as a whole but I think it should work out great.

    Thank ya'll for the support I was super nervous doing these crafts going in but I was shocked with how much theorycrafting went in to get the optimal rotation for it, especially with them being 60 durability as opposed to the normal 80 for the high end stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    My Ishgardian Rotation:

    Not sure why but I'm getting a different result when I put that into teamcraft, perhaps they updated lately? Either way it's a solid rotation and get's the 1 button max reward.

    My own at the moment is:

    /ac Reflect <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>

    Which should work on 2352 Craft, 2135 Control and 478 CP
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