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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhaid View Post
    I dont think restricting outsiders to the fates is a good idea long-term. Sure, itll help mitigate the onslaught of people, but what about when restoration dies down? What reason would there be to help out some low-pop surver struggling to get to the halfway point when most others are complete AND you can get a fate at them?

    Id much prefer the instance option, though Im not sure if it would be the best fit since thered prolly be instance hopping for bonus rewards.

    I think some kinda extra bonhs to the fate based on how much you contributed in your world would at least trim the herd a little bit, would be complicated to impliment
    People from your own world are what causes the fate bar to fill.

    Those who wander only contribute to your restoration progress for whatever they do during the FATE (as in if its a gold silver bronze or fail). That is the only time they have an impact on your world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan026 View Post
    People from your own world are what causes the fate bar to fill.

    Those who wander only contribute to your restoration progress for whatever they do during the FATE (as in if its a gold silver bronze or fail). That is the only time they have an impact on your world.
    It said somewhere in the help text that whatever items you hand in are contributed to the world you are currently located on, not your home world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It said somewhere in the help text that whatever items you hand in are contributed to the world you are currently located on, not your home world.
    It did, it's in the patch notes. Wanderers on other worlds contribute to where they visiting/currently located and not where they came from. So aside from the congestion issues, it's actually beneficial for a world to have visitors for this activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    It did, it's in the patch notes. Wanderers on other worlds contribute to where they visiting/currently located and not where they came from. So aside from the congestion issues, it's actually beneficial for a world to have visitors for this activity.
    For the activity itself, perhaps. It is detrimental, however, to the players on their home servers, choosing not to server hop, being locked out of participating due to the wanderers filling the area. Blocked from rewards that you should've had access to.

    The event will be completed regardless, so there's no real benefit to have world visitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    For the activity itself, perhaps. It is detrimental, however, to the players on their home servers, choosing not to server hop, being locked out of participating due to the wanderers filling the area. Blocked from rewards that you should've had access to.

    The event will be completed regardless, so there's no real benefit to have world visitors.
    Blocked from what rewards exactly? Most of the items that can be obtained with Scrips can actually be traded with others and/or sold on the Marketboard, so it doesn't matter at all who competes the activities (wanderers or locals). And I'm sure whether players choose to participate in the event now or later down the line, the rewards will still exist so in this regard no one is completely blocked from them.

    If a group of players want to join their friends on X world to do the activities, let them, that's the whole point of world visit. Just add temporary instances to the Firmament, simple that's all it needs, non of this drama about being blocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Blocked from what rewards exactly? Most of the items that can be obtained with Scrips can actually be traded with others and/or sold on the Marketboard, so it doesn't matter at all who competes the activities (wanderers or locals). And I'm sure whether players choose to participate in the event now or later down the line, the rewards will still exist so in this regard no one is completely blocked from them.

    If a group of players want to join their friends on X world to do the activities, let them, that's the whole point of world visit. Just add temporary instances to the Firmament, simple that's all it needs, non of this drama about being blocked.
    Forcing a server to not be able to participate in a specific fate on their Own server and having to make them craft for it is unbelievable because people get greedy and make other servers congested. People want to feel like they're contributing to the project, not have other people do it for them. This whole thing has make other servers toxic toward each other when this was suppose to be a work together event, now it's just people shouting "Get over it". If you want to join your friends and craft to help sure, but you should not be able to participate in the fate on another server. The fate needs to have a daily limit to it to lessen the chance of congestion. Making instances to the firm will not solve anything since people will just do the fate and switch instances still making it congested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    snip.
    Yoshi has spoken, emergency measures maybe implemented but for now it really is a "get over it" situation and see what happens.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...13#post5232513

    On a side note, did it really take this content for people to make a big fuss when such congestion issues have been going on for a substantial amount of time already, specifically talking about hunts. But that's fine, wanderers come to kill stuff all the time and "lock" others from participating in hunts native to their world, but hey ho let's act like the problem is new....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    Forcing a server to not be able to participate in a specific fate on their Own server and having to make them craft for it is unbelievable because people get greedy and make other servers congested. People want to feel like they're contributing to the project, not have other people do it for them. This whole thing has make other servers toxic toward each other when this was suppose to be a work together event, now it's just people shouting "Get over it". If you want to join your friends and craft to help sure, but you should not be able to participate in the fate on another server. The fate needs to have a daily limit to it to lessen the chance of congestion. Making instances to the firm will not solve anything since people will just do the fate and switch instances still making it congested.
    I agree with MitsuKimura.
    The Ifriti horn is tradeable. There were several listed for sale for 5 million. In the fate I was in last night on Bryn before I fell asleep from exhaustion, it looked like more than half of the participants were wanderers and people were reporting being locked out of the instance on the home world. People may have been helping and thanking wanderers for help on our server. We do value kindness, but we don't really need the help. Bryn has plenty of crafters.
    I do think it sucks that you can't join friends or that balmung or mateus may now have an overcrowding problem, but you choose what server you're on. You can always make an alt for lower-population servers, and with the new leveling changes, getting high enough to participate is a snap.
    But this fix is flawed. It does suck that you can't participate in a FATE that may be up while you're playing when one isn't up on your own server.
    I hope they implement instances soon for this event, and deal with the issue of people exploiting even that, when it hurts other players.
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    Last edited by KatCnaa; 11-14-2019 at 10:21 PM.