Viera can't use the new Modern Aesthetics - Modern Legend

[Iscah]

There is nothing inherent about Hrothgar that says this had to be the way they worked. It was their choice to do that with Hrothgar's hair and heads. So no, I don't think the devs see having to buy a potion for mane changing as a "problem" they couldn't solve so much as a Character Customization Feature they gave em seeing as Yoshi said he told the team not to worry about fitting hair styles to Hrothgar ... that they were gonna do this wholly unique beast headed race thing. I'd say they see it as as much of a "problem" as picking your character's tail shape. I personally think it's a huge oversight but I don't think they see it that way at all.

To a degree, I think it did "have" to be how they worked... if they were going to have customisable fur patterns. They repurposed the hairstyle setting to control that instead.

I also think the development team might not have considered/realised that some people regularly change their character's hairstyle, to the point it should be a high priority to 'protect' that setting and not sacrifice it to implement different options. They may see it as something you choose when creating your character, and only very occasionally alter.

Have we ever seen Yoshida's Lalafell character using anything other than the 'long pigtails' style she normally has? (Or the Minfilia dress, for that matter?)

So you think it's okay if they'll change their statements every month?

There's a difference between ONE updated statement and the information changing frequently.

In any case, I don't see the contradiction.

E3 interview:

"Since Hrothgar have hairstyles tied to their character creation options rather than being separately selectable, you will not be able to apply unlockable hairstyles, but they might implement more face types after 5.0. As for Viera, there's some legacy haristyles they'll able to eventually implement, but not all of them. Some of unlockable hairstyles should be supported, others may not be."

Q&A:

"Of course we plan on adding more, so please wait for future patches. However it will still be race-specific, so there won’t be as many selections when compared to other races."

First statement: "We will eventually implement some legacy hairstyles, but not all of them. Some (not all) unlockable hairstyles will be supported."

Second statement: "Race-specific hairstyles will be implemented."

Neither of those statements are inconsistent with one new non-race-specific hairstyle being introduced for other races and not Viera - whether you consider the lack of compatibility acceptable or not.

[Avidria]

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Oh I'm very aware they chose to make Hrothgar manes work the way they did. As I said before though, I think that was a bad choice made with a lack of forethought and consideration for the time and money people have spent obtaining sometimes exclusive cosmetics that their choice effectively locked people out of entirely, which leaves us in a situation where Hrothgar and Viera both have extremely limited customization relative to every other race in the game and going back to change that now is apparently a lot of work and hassle. Hence, a problem.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that I think it'd be as easy as a snap of the finger to work around Viera ears? I'm very aware that there would be challenges, and that many would require edits. Heck, existing hairstyles have required edits just based on Miqo ears (the one I'm thinking of frankly I think looks terrible on them but cute on everyone else tbh).

I'm comparing the two races because they're essentially a packaged deal. I'm also saying the way SE handled this, and they choices they made, were bad ones. Limiting the races like this was, imo, a mistake. A mistake that, if they're gonna fix at all, would require them to fix it for both races, and likely not one before the other.

If they don't plan to fix it at all, I'd at least like to know that for a fact so I know to stop bothering to look at new hairstyles I'll never be able to use.

[HeyMcFly]

I'm still waiting for Enix to add the Y'shtola Hair to Viera- I feel it's been long enough, I really appreciate the content we have gotten BUT there are paid for hairstyles that should have also been prioritized & added by now (No, we didn't have to buy them) but it's a poor business model creating a new race that can't even use new hairstyles that are paid for with real money, yet not included with a new race- Don't even get me started with the outfits they release yet cannot be dyed. Modders fixed the issue really quick, skinning hairstyles over pre-existing but that's besides the point.
SquareEnix, please Add new hairstyles to Hrothgar & Viera, add the Existing hairstyles as well such as Yshtola's, Lightnings & All of the Modern Aesthetics. I completely understand that Viera & Hrothgar are new & different models- so it will take time. Heck, There are tons of holes in the Miqo'te head if you take away their hair, basically gaps where designers didn't want to fix.

Allow Hrothgar to switch between Hairs & faces- instead of locking their hairs to specific faces.

Also, if it's something Enix never plans to fix, not adding new hairstyles- it needs to be addressed.

[SturmChurro]

Allow Hrothgar to switch between Hairs & faces- instead of locking their hairs to specific faces.

This will never happen, without an overhaul. Their hair is designed to fit each specific face. On top of that they would probably have to do something about the fur patterns that supposedly use up the hair "slot" in the creator.

Also, if it's something Enix never plans to fix, not adding new hairstyles- it needs to be addressed.

They have addressed it. Viera will get new hairs, some day, one day. Hrothgar will probably get new faces.

[HeyMcFly]

Thank you for letting me know! (not mine, got from someones discord)
Maybe soon™

[Iscah]

On the totally hypothetical chance that someone considered posting pictures of modded characters on the official forums of a game that bans you from making any third-party modifications to your character... it's not a great idea to do that.

[LyraMaru]

I'm really bummed that we get nothing for 5.1. Viera is a nice choice for me - and I love it -, but I like only a few original Viera's hairstyles. I hoped that we will get 1 or 2 new hairstyles at 5.1. or that some old ones are somehow changed a little to fit on Viera's heads. That there's 0, ZERO, communication from the dev's at which point we would get new styles is pretty disappointing. Hoping that we will get news at the next live letter.

[VirusOnline]

The issue is that the races were rushed out to begin with.
This is a signal the SE was ill prepared and put out an unfinished product, functional in all sense of the game, save for player's ability to customize them which is deemed a low priority. We have to remember that most headgear wasn't even available at launch, only some thanks to the amazing effort of the dev team.

What is in the current timeline has priority over hrothgar faces and viera hairstyles. Developers are working on content that is well into future patches with a release date of a few months to 1.5y from now. It will be safe to assume from here on out that customization options will definitely not be available for viera let alone hrothgar.

[Raiya]

On the totally hypothetical chance that someone considered posting pictures of modded characters on the official forums of a game that bans you from making any third-party modifications to your character... it's not a great idea to do that.

They can't ban you for posting mods if your not the one who took the picture!

*taps head*

[TheMightyMollusk]

It's not a mod, it's just a really good Photoshop, right? *wink, nudge*