Quote Originally Posted by Deusteele View Post
When G'raha started to pull scions to the First, he changed who was where when they were there and what they had done. For whatever reasons this prevented Zenos from stopping the Black Rose somehow. Since the First was always leaking Light aspect aether onto the Source and the scions weren't on the First to stop the aether flowing onto the Source it turned the Black Rose into the necessary calamity to allow for a Rejoining.

I find it amusing that players will so readily take the Ascian's side after ShadowBringers. He really didn't tell us anything that Lahabrea or the Voice of the Mother hadn't already told us. He just gave us an admittedly biased view on the events from his perspective. But because he smiled and made a few jokes rather then speaking down at us he's alright? I don't see much about how tragic Lahabrea was, or how we are in the wrong for stopping him back in ARR.
And really, there was never a time I felt he wasn't talking down to us. He was pretty backhanded. Especially with the talk of his tests of our worth, that gave me the impression of someone saying "why did you make me hurt you?" after beating you. ‾\_(ツ)_/‾