Ishgard housing sale idea

[Antoine_Lenheim]

So it was datamined by someone on Twitter that Ishgard housing is already inside game files and we can already suppose it's going to be at the end of the restoration. Which is a flawed idea by itself because only a group of high-levelled crafters n gatherers will contribute the most for it but every player can get a house there so a question rises, why crafters should bother if they wont have any priveleges? Except from exclusive housing stuff and weekly rewards maybe. But even then It doesnt feel right that I will be working for placeholder level 1 characters or 4-man FCs who hoard houses seconds after new wards/area release and then RMT their mansions.

So an idea came into my head, what if instead of selling houses in new residential area for gil, start to sell them for special Ishgard scrips? You will earn them by contributing stuff for restoration, contributions will be divided into tabs like with collectible hand-ins, crafters/gatherers/fisher contribution and for those who doesnt have any crafters or gatherers, materia/gil contribution. This way houses wont sell out as fast and every player should have a fair chance. Just need to set a high scrip cost for mediums and larges, this way I wont even be mad at people who got it because I will know they worked their asses off for this mansion. Especially if there is a cap of how much scrips you can obtain per week, so for example if you missed a week of working for restoration, you wont accumulate as much scrips as needed to get yourself a large at release day. And this way crafters and gatherers wont stroll around Ishgard with a pompous face, bragging about how hard we VIP people work for you low-lifers so you can have a chance to try your luck in housing x)

I know that this will never be a thing but was nice trying to actually came up with a housing shortage solution idea myself. Even if its just to entertain myself and people on forum who will read me.

[Doozer]

None of the stuff you turn in for scrips are hard to craft. As long as your gear is up to date and melded, you can spam macro crafting for a good couple hours and get it. That's no more work than someone just spending gil.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

None of the stuff you turn in for scrips are hard to craft. As long as your gear is up to date and melded, you can spam macro crafting for a good couple hours and get it. That's no more work than someone just spending gil.

Its not about how hard it is to craft stuff for scrips but about how much time are you willing to invest into it. Like I said, mediums and larges should be at a very high scrip cost so if you miss a week or two you wont be able to accumulate enough scrips to get on on release day. And also its just fairer to everyone since only people who will work for restoration will be given a chance to try luck in housing, not just every player.

[Doozer]

Its not about how hard it is to craft stuff for scrips but about how much time are you willing to invest into it. Like I said, mediums and larges should be at a very high scrip cost so if you miss a week or two you wont be able to accumulate enough scrips to get on on release day. And also its just fairer to everyone since only people who will work for restoration will be given a chance to try luck in housing, not just every player.

Except people take time to save up enough gil too. Depending on how experienced they are with the game, it can take months. Is that not enough time? Or is it not enough time because you already have that and thus feel like it's nothing.

[Gula]

High level? As if. I got some DoH and DoL to 80 when I can gather and contribute at as low as 60. On top of materials sellable on the MB.

Please. I dont think a 1-60 levekit is 200k. And if you cant afford that how would you buy a house anyway? Some gathering materials are lv5!

[JowyAtreides]

To me, all you're suggesting is replacing the word gil with scrips. Why should my hard-earned gil, that I've accumulated over 6 years of playtime be made redundant to some scrips?

Your suggestion also doesn't solve the shortage, it just merely delays the whinging by gating access to housing behind yet another layer that people will find a way to get through in a matter of time.

The only solutions to the shortage is giving supply that meets the demand. Not some convoluted suggestion (and you're not alone in suggestions) that trickles through the access to a select few, whether by luck or by effort.

[Doozer]

To me, all you're suggesting is replacing the word gil with scrips. Why should my hard-earned gil, that I've accumulated over 6 years of playtime be made redundant to some scrips?

Your suggestion also doesn't solve the shortage, it just merely delays the whinging by gating access to housing behind yet another layer that people will find a way to get through in a matter of time.

The only solutions to the shortage is giving supply that meets the demand. Not some convoluted suggestion (and you're not alone in suggestions) that trickles through the access to a select few, whether by luck or by effort.

Exactly all of this.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

To me, all you're suggesting is replacing the word gil with scrips. Why should my hard-earned gil, that I've accumulated over 6 years of playtime be made redundant to some scrips?

Your suggestion also doesn't solve the shortage, it just merely delays the whinging by gating access to housing behind yet another layer that people will find a way to get through in a matter of time.

The only solutions to the shortage is giving supply that meets the demand. Not some convoluted suggestion (and you're not alone in suggestions) that trickles through the access to a select few, whether by luck or by effort.

It doesnt directly solves shortage, it just gives fairness to everybody. The fact that Ishgard will be available straight after restoration ends means that people who actually worked for it will be on the same level with every players who didnt bothered with it. So like I said, 4-man placeholder FC created purely for purpose of hoarding houses and then selling them for overprice well get their hand into Ishgard as well. Which is unfair. Making it so that all people who want the house will need to work for restoration is more fair and it will at least prevent these FCs from spawning. Or will least create some sort of border that they will need to get around in order to snatch all larges again.

And the second thing that it does is automatically filters out those who wasnt able to buy subscription for period of time, was on break, vacation, etc etc and thats exactly whats we need, less people -- less houses will be taken seconds after.

[Kytrin]

But even then It doesnt feel right that I will be working for placeholder level 1 characters or 4-man FCs who hoard houses seconds after new wards/area release and then RMT their mansions.

You're not going to completely stop this no matter what you do hon. It's just not possible. A 4 man FC can still have a crafter/gatherer in it that contributes to get all of those scrips you want. And there's no way a lvl 1 placeholder character could get a plot anyway, even if they had the gil. They still have to have the basic requirements from their GC for ANY housing and Ishgard is further locked behind content.

Personally, I don't see the issue? I already have my dream house and no intention of moving unless the finished ward REALLY does something spectacular to entice me away. Regardless, I'm going to contribute enthusiastically, and cheerfully collect all the rewards and materia I can get my hands on. I can save my weekly delivery scrips for other stuff at last. I also know a lot of my FC mates are wild fans of Ishgard and seriously looking forward to housing there, but not all of them have the time/money/patience for the kind of thing you're talking about. It's not really fair to deny them as well.

[Dustytome]

They still have gatherer & non-crafter/gatherer turn-ins to add to the process at a later time. Crafters are just the only ones capable of contributing at the moment. They likely wouldn't want to create a separate monetary system for plot purchases as it would cause them issues with relocation, auto-demolition refunds, etc. Eventually it will still come down to a bunch of people with scrips they cant use because the supply can't meet demand anyway.