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[Infindox]

Personally I'm a bit upset about removing all the other maps out of the Roulette and having only the new one. Wouldn't they WANT to have it that way? Since the new mount is 100 wins on the new map, wouldn't it make sense to keep players playing longer by switching it? At least every other day.
Now the other maps essicentally have dead rewards because 24 man PvP now is dead too.

[ShigNanigans]

Yea faster queues for PvP, awesome! To bad this whole shtick of only having the new mode be the only mode that queues up for the frontline daily isn't helping out newer players in the pvp scene! Granted, its bad enough I waited 3 days just for seal rock to be back up cause I really want that coat! But now I cant because nobody is queuing up for the seal rock cause everyone is only getting queued up for the new mode, nor does it help that this is the new "daily"!
I don't mind the new mode, I really don't...but please just add it to the rotation, have seal rock be tomorrow, and then Fields of Glory, and then Borderlands, and then resets back to Onsal Hakair.

[Roda]

I'm not happy about my chances of getting seize to pop reduced to 0 since I'm only 7 wins away from the coat.
I AM happy about how the new, more aggressive seize game mode plays.

[BloodRubyXII]

Yea faster queues for PvP, awesome! To bad this whole shtick of only having the new mode be the only mode that queues up for the frontline daily isn't helping out newer players in the pvp scene! Granted, its bad enough I waited 3 days just for seal rock to be back up cause I really want that coat! But now I cant because nobody is queuing up for the seal rock cause everyone is only getting queued up for the new mode, nor does it help that this is the new "daily"!
I don't mind the new mode, I really don't...but please just add it to the rotation, have seal rock be tomorrow, and then Fields of Glory, and then Borderlands, and then resets back to Onsal Hakair.

This sounds logical, but then the reality becomes people will just queue on Onsal Hakair day and that's it.

[Rhais]

I'm not happy about my chances of getting seize to pop reduced to 0 since I'm only 7 wins away from the coat.
I AM happy about how the new, more aggressive seize game mode plays.

I do like the way the new map plays, no more "hold this node, let them fight". No waiting at waymark A. The way it forces you to be aggressive is a nice change.

[Nalien]

You and I disagree and that is fine. I come from not enough pvp players que.

My issue is with how SE tries to get new players into PvP. They spread their net wide and just catch more seaweed. Instead they need to focus on the aspects of PvP that work; Why do the people who currently enjoy it do so? What makes them engage with it? What aspects do they engage with the most? Focus on those sorts of things. Please those players, then more like-minded people will slowly join in.

Instead all SE has ever really done is attempt to force people to play who, in all honesty, don't want to PvP. They don't engage, sometimes they don't even participate. For the most part they just complain all match. It honestly ruins PvP IMO, to focus on such players. They're not the target demographic for PvP, and all focusing on them does is drive away the actual PvPers. I really enjoyed what I played of the new map last night, but I'm ultimately not going to play it much for a bit. The legion of people who openly admit to not wanting to be there have put me off, there's only so much of their inane complaining that I can take. So much "We've already lost" and "F*ck premades!", despite none of them ever even attempting to organize. Instead of calling points to help our chances, they complain about having to PvP for a new mount. Instead of asking the people they're currently in a match with if they want to premade to improve their chances, they just insult premades. It's frankly disgusting to watch.

It's better than Mog Tome farmers literally just sitting in the corner doing nothing, but still... I'd much rather SE start working on improving player engagement with PvP, rather than just routinely attempting to fill a rusty bucket. Just filling us up with a bunch of mount farmers for a week doesn't ultimately do any good. Build up the aspects that players engage with and more people are going to stick around to engage with them. That we're instead seeing things like premades being dismantled, and variety being striped away to please people who simply aren't engaging with the content? People who'll get their mount and stop queuing completely? That's disheartening. Why should people who actually enjoy PvP stick around, when the aspects they enjoy are being taken away?

[testname]

I do like the way the new map plays, no more "hold this node, let them fight". No waiting at waymark A. The way it forces you to be aggressive is a nice change.

I hate it to the core!!!

You could recapture point but no, now it doesn't matter

Claster F of Ants Runing Around

[testname]

the PvP should be fun and no grind fest for mount/item , and then never going there, coz it's done

ask Yourself why LoL, DotA, CS has players non stop? coz it's fun, not that they farm for item and never play it again

[Odessium]

the PvP should be fun and no grind fest for mount/item , and then never going there, coz it's done

ask Yourself why LoL, DotA, CS has players non stop? coz it's fun, not that they farm for item and never play it again

I beg to differ. I find PvP to be very much enjoyable and the new map to be a superior version of Seal Rock (Seize).

PvP on Japanese servers are highly active so saying no one goes there again after they've gotten their rewards it's just plain false (same goes for alot of EU/NA players aswell).

It all comes down to whether you actually like PvP and not it being a "grind fest".

[BloodRubyXII]

the PvP should be fun and no grind fest for mount/item , and then never going there, coz it's done

ask Yourself why LoL, DotA, CS has players non stop? coz it's fun, not that they farm for item and never play it again

1) Because they're free
2) You really think LoL/DOTA2 would still be popular if they didn't have ranked ladders? Nor something to actually grind for to keep it fresh? Let's remember both games have had the same game play since they started, we haven't. Also, CS was traditionally a casual game but still had an eSports background, so why suddenly a ranked ladder if playing it for fun was simply enough?
3) MMORPG PvPers are a minority in a lot of MMOs, but none more so than here. Look at how horrible this game engine is for combat, it's clearly not designed with PvP in mind.