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    Undercutting by 1 Gil is the most respectful way you can list your item without cutting into the other people's profit by tanking the price.

    And please let's stop the upvote farming narrative that you tank prices for the buyers. If you can tank prices that hard because some one undercut for 1 Gil without massively hurting your profit, you could have already set your price that low in the first place. You just care about your profit until someone undercuts, then it's just tanking out of spite. Helping the buyers is just a convenient excuse to justify Gil baron flexing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    If you can tank prices that hard because some one undercut for 1 Gil without massively hurting your profit, you could have already set your price that low in the first place.
    I suppose that's what we should do, then, right? Let's just list the items at rock bottom prices from the start.

    Also, no, it's not the most respectful way to list your item. That's absurd. You have multiple other options, including listing at the same price and listing at a higher price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I suppose that's what we should do, then, right? Let's just list the items at rock bottom prices from the start.
    You're the one trying to justify greed and spite with "helping the buyers". Make a better argument, then? And respect the fact that there are no exclusive sellers and your prices don't deserve any special consideration above the others instead of ruining profit for everyone involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You're the one trying to justify greed and spite with "helping the buyers". Make a better argument, then? And respect the fact that there are no exclusive sellers and your prices don't deserve any special consideration above the others instead of ruining profit for everyone involved.
    I haven't tried to make gil in over 5 years. Apparently I'm greedy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I haven't tried to make gil in over 5 years. Apparently I'm greedy now.
    If undercutting by one Gil threatens your bottom line and upsets you so that you need to tank the price immediately, then yes you seem to be.
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    Also If I see $19,999 I will drop it to $19,000. Same with any price. We can play the 1 Gil game as long as you are ok with dropping it 1k every time you want to drop it 1 Gil. I've got time to play the auction house mini-game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Undercutting by 1 Gil is the most respectful way you can list your item without cutting into the other people's profit by tanking the price.
    Not "The Most Respectful", the MOST respectful way would be to put your price up at the exact same price, then you both have an equal chance at a sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Riot View Post
    Not "The Most Respectful", the MOST respectful way would be to put your price up at the exact same price, then you both have an equal chance at a sell.
    Not really. MB lists by most recent first in those cases, so the last one to add theirs would be the first sold, in the most likelihood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Not really. MB lists by most recent first in those cases, so the last one to add theirs would be the first sold, in the most likelihood.
    that's not true at all. I do it all the time and it's totally random who's item goes up first. Some times I put it up for the exact same price selling out of the exact same city and mine is at the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Riot View Post
    Not "The Most Respectful", the MOST respectful way would be to put your price up at the exact same price, then you both have an equal chance at a sell.
    Yeah, when someone undercuts me by 1 I try to match them. If they do it again, I'll probably match again because I think it's silly to lower the price like that. If they do it AGAIN, I'll decide to take much more drastic measures depending on what I can do about it- which of course depends on what the market looks like (if things sell fast or not, if I can get them to undercut larger cuts so I can buy them out, etc). I do take city state into account though, sometimes it's 1 gil undercut but my retainer is in a better location so I'll wait and see what happens (some buyers pay attention to tax rates lol).

    1 gil undercutting every 30 minutes, which I've seen, is the most annoying thing I've seen. If you think the price is unfair then just set it to what you think is fair lol. Can be made worse when it's a fast selling item but everyone is posting together in a trail of items 1 gil off from each other, if it's fast enough and lots of people went under market price you can buy it all and put it back up XD.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 11-13-2019 at 04:15 AM.

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