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    ErzaScarlet77's Avatar
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    Lili Reina
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    how do i link the same gear into 2 slots and a default glamour?

    my 3 casters share gear. my smn take the glamour 1 look, my rdm takes glamour 3 look, while i want my blm to keep default gear look

    but the glamour from smn kept overwrtign the blm/rdm one. what gives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    my 3 casters share gear. my smn take the glamour 1 look, my rdm takes glamour 3 look, while i want my blm to keep default gear look

    but the glamour from smn kept overwrtign the blm/rdm one. what gives?
    So the glamour system attaches the look of one object to another object. That's all it does, even when you're using plates. This means that your SMN and RDM glamours are overwriting each other each time they're applied. Your BLM is just out of luck here because there's no way to create a glamour plate that dispels glamours. The best you could really do there is to create a third plate that just carries the default look of the gear set you're talking about.
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    Yup. Likely recommended method, simply put the gear into the glamour dresser (think it removes the glamours to do so, and also must be repaired, will also remove any spirit bond), set up a third glamour plate using that gear, then remove the gear from the glamour dresser to continue using it.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    there's no way to create a glamour plate that dispels glamours.
    There actually is a way: use gear that is incompatible with the class it is being applied to.

    In this case, to make BLM have the default gear appearance, you'd put SMN or RDM relic gear on the plate. IIRC it has to be from the same group of classes so the glamour will be applied and not just fail.

    It's probably simpler to just make a plate that actually uses the gear you want to see. As Hasrat said, you can put gear in the dresser, add it to a plate, then remove the original gear - without affecting the image on the plate. You'll lose any spiritbond and the tag that says who crafted it, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    There actually is a way: use gear that is incompatible with the class it is being applied to.

    In this case, to make BLM have the default gear appearance, you'd put SMN or RDM relic gear on the plate. IIRC it has to be from the same group of classes so the glamour will be applied and not just fail.
    I hadn't thought of that. Yeah that'd probably work. But it'd be a very niche use case in which the user wants to use job-specific gear as the glamour and not just like, a company tabard on the SMN and a raincoat on the RDM or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    I hadn't thought of that. Yeah that'd probably work. But it'd be a very niche use case in which the user wants to use job-specific gear as the glamour and not just like, a company tabard on the SMN and a raincoat on the RDM or something.
    That's still doable - you put the SMN/RDM gear on the BLM plate, not the one it belongs to. Then when you apply the plate to the BLM, they are now wearing [Generic Coat of Casting glamoured as Summoner Coat] and the system looks at that and says "sorry, you can't equip that Summoner Coat, so it's going to display as the Generic Coat" - which in this case is exactly what you want to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That's still doable - you put the SMN/RDM gear on the BLM plate, not the one it belongs to. Then when you apply the plate to the BLM, they are now wearing [Generic Coat of Casting glamoured as Summoner Coat] and the system looks at that and says "sorry, you can't equip that Summoner Coat, so it's going to display as the Generic Coat" - which in this case is exactly what you want to happen.
    Not quite what I was talking about, and I have no idea what the OP wants to do.

    Let me try again, maybe I'll do better this time.

    Let's say I want 3 glamour sets: SMN, RDM, and BLM.. all glamouring over the same set of gear:

    SMN - Company Tabard dyed green, long skirt, emperor's new gloves, ... shoes ... whatever shoes.
    RDM - Raincoat dyed red, pants, gloves, shoes
    BLM - The default look for the gear

    As far as I can tell this setup is impossible without a third glamour plate set up to just look like the gear already looks. I'm not including any job-specific gear at all, so there's no failover possibility here. Those two glamoured sets are usable by all three jobs, so whichever one was used last will be the one BLM uses each time I switch to it.

    Using job-specific gear would be fine, but if you just want 2 different looks plus the default, there really isn't a good way to do it.

    Again though, I don't know what the OP's intention here was as they haven't expanded on it at all.
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    A glamour plate per unique look, and buying bulk glamour dispellers for default.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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    Coven Whitewolf
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    I use macros to switch my gear/class.

    Say I want to use DRG and RDM. DRG is #3 in my gear set list, and the glamour is #5. RDM is #20 in my gear set list and #1 in my glamour.

    /macroicon "Dragoon" classjob
    /gearset change 3 5

    *The 3 represents the gear set (class in the gear set list that is created automatically when we get a job), and the 5 represents what glamour I wanted for my DRG.

    and for RDM:
    /macroicon "Red Mage" classjob
    /gearset change 20 1

    *Same thing here, 20 is the gear set listing for my RDM, and 1 represents the glamour number I have that glamour set assigned to out of the 15 slots we have.

    If you use dyes, you want to use the same glamour but have different dye colors per job, you will have to make a glamour for each set you want a different color. **Make sure you dye the gear in the glamour, NOT the gear itself** You will be sorely disappointed when you have no dyed glamour (learned this the hard way).

    I use the macros above for just about every job I play (which is all of them), and utilize the 15 glamour slots.

    Hope it helps you accomplish what you are trying to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    As far as I can tell this setup is impossible without a third glamour plate set up to just look like the gear already looks.
    That's basically what's already been said. Nobody disagrees with this. The two proposed suggestions are using a third plate set up for default gear look, or using a third plate set up using job gear that the intended job cannot wear, resulting in the same default appearance. It's all you can really do, unless OP wants to buy glamour dispellers every time they swap.
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