Petition: Don't implement Content Finder!

[Jinko]

at least if you find that person on YOUR SERVER you can befriend them and they can join your shell and come with you regularly.

I already mentioned RealID and unique tags so you can continue to chat across server and possibly even party again if the features are implemented

Why would you want to pick up some completely random person from server x and HOPE that A) They speak your language, B)Have a Job/Class you need, C)Are not a total idiot who happened to wonder into someones house and is facerolling the keyboard, D) Have stable neough connection to not DC during whatever...etc??????

Yea because this can't happen if I shout in Ul'dah right ?

I cannot possibly comprehend why anyone would want to subject themselves to the plethera of crap that is more likely to wrong then right.

In my time playng WoW (yes I know I mention this game far too much) I met plenty of friendly and capable people using content finder, sure there were bad eggs also but you just take the rough with the smooth.

You sound like a capable person.. Friendly not so much.. I'm not sure I would want to be stuck in a party with someone barking orders at me, I've had that happen a few times, its just as bad as someone who can't play for shit.

BTW servers are up.

[Arcell]

I think the main isssue here is either low server population or lack of decent social skills. Because seriously... I have one linkshell. ONE. We help each other out. We stay up late or don't sleep sometimes to help members out. Is there no linkshell like that on your servers? If so that is sad indeed. You really need to look around and try to find a helpful LS. As far as needing an 8th for something... at least if you find that person on YOUR SERVER you can befriend them and they can join your shell and come with you regularly. Why would you want to pick up some completely random person from server x and HOPE that A) They speak your language, B)Have a Job/Class you need, C)Are not a total idiot who happened to wonder into someones house and is facerolling the keyboard, D) Have stable neough connection to not DC during whatever...etc??????

I cannot possibly comprehend why anyone would want to subject themselves to the plethera of crap that is more likely to wrong then right.

There are issues, you're right. However if you don't want to deal with any of that, as I'm sure you don't, then you simply don't use it. I know I don't even like randoms on my own server so I stick with my LS. I'm fortunate enough to be in a good, active LS. Not everyone is. That said, I simply wouldn't ever use the content finder, however its existence does not detract from my enjoyment of the game.

It would be there for those who want to use it or take those chances. It is an option and as long as it is not forced upon anyone, it being there isn't hurting anyone.

The things you are describing are the worst-case scenarios. You're just as likely to get someone who does speak your language, has the class/job you need, is a competent player and not a complete asshole. That is the reality of dealing with people in general, there are a lot of unknowns. Can't damn everyone because of a few people though.

[KiriA500]

So your psychic? You know how I am feeling and I don't? lol Your silly.

No, I have a basic grasp on the English language, so I can generally tell what someone means when they say something. It's not difficult.

[StateAlchemist]

This is an issue every time you pick up a random person, whether it's via content finder or traditional grouping methods. Current searches already allow you to filter by language spoken and class; why would it be any different for content finder? Can you not wrap your shriveled pea brain around these ideas?

Maybe you can wrap YOUR shriveled pea brain around this: What's stopping me from selecting that I speak EN, JP, FR, etc...? Becuase that is what the search goes by: What each individual CLAIMS as languages they speak. Just because you use search for say EN players, doesn't mean they all speak EN. They may only think they know enough to get by.

In FFXI I flagged myself as EN/JP for search because it helped me get parties during JP peak hours. I didn't speak a lick of JP. But if that flag wasn't up I wouldn't have gotten those invites.

And furthermore: some content requires one person to have multiple classes/jobs. The search function isn't that good.

Next time why don't you think before you type. maybe you won't make yourself look like an idiot when try to talk down to someone who already thought three steps ahead of you.

[StateAlchemist]

No, I have a basic grasp on the English language, so I can generally tell what someone means when they say something. It's not difficult.

Obviously it is difficult. Because your wrong. I don't get upset over forum posts. In fact 99% of them make me laugh, whether it's with the poster or at them.

EDIT: Didn't realize that was you Doc B! NVM you are psychic! Beware his power! (Seriously D
Why we even having this discussion on here? lol I can talk to you in game!!

[Wolfie]

Maybe you can wrap YOUR shriveled pea brain around this: What's stopping me from selecting that I speak EN, JP, FR, etc...? Becuase that is what the search goes by: What each individual CLAIMS as languages they speak. Just because you use search for say EN players, doesn't mean they all speak EN. They may only think they know enough to get by.

In FFXI I flagged myself as EN/JP for search because it helped me get parties during JP peak hours. I didn't speak a lick of JP. But if that flag wasn't up I wouldn't have gotten those invites.

How is this a content-finder unique problem? You can do this now and suffer the consequences later when you get in a group.

And furthermore: some content requires one person to have multiple classes/jobs. The search function isn't that good.

Next time why don't you think before you type. maybe you won't make yourself look like an idiot when try to talk down to someone who already thought three steps ahead of you.

Are you saying it's also impossible that with the content finder, the search system will be re-done to allow you to flag multiple classes that you want to use (hint: WOW lets you do this)? Are you saying that they'd implement the content finder with everything as-is? Are you that dumb?

[KiriA500]

o.o

People know who I am!

[Moonglow]

Now now , stop going at each other's throats everyone. Servers will be back up in due time, and till then , maybe take a walk outside or drink some tea~ which is what i am gonna do now.

As for finding the right LS - if it was that simple, people wouldn't need those search functions. But i've played enough different MMo's to know that there's always a big percentage that just can't find a place for themselves.

[Wincy]

I have been reading these forums every day for a few months now. After 1.21, I finally resubscribed to the game (quit shortly after launch). After reading this thread, I finally felt so compelled to respond that I set up my forum account and am making my first post!

First of all, I want to say that I don't understand why everyone gives Rokien such a hard time. I've read a ton of his threads and honestly agree with most of them - not all, but most. He's just trying to get his opinion out there people. We all know the devs have an uncanny inclination to incorporate player feedback, so out of all the MMOs I've played I think this is definitely the most important place to make your voice heard! Besides, there's nothing wrong with desiring immersion in your gaming experience, and YES things like Anima and Content Finder DO INDEED hurt the immersion factor.

All that being said, I love the concept of Content Finder. It really is a staple of the modern MMO and it should be included in FFXIV as well. HOWEVER, they need to be very careful how it's implemented imho.

Primarily, my concern would be that automatically porting from town (or wherever) straight to the dungeon/instance/whatever absolutely destroys the immersion and lore of the world...it just doesn't make any sense! I would prefer to just be able to find a group, then {Gather Together} the old fashioned way. Even cross server, perhaps we would just get a dedicated chat channel with the other members, then be able to form a party once we reach the instance. MAYBE they could help this factor by having some sort of MAS - Moogle Adventuring Society - whose members across Eorzea seek to help us find friends with whom to adventure! Just let them know what you would like to do and they will do their best to locate others, using their extensive communication network, then tap into your aether and send you all to the location in question. Maybe this would be a cool way to keep the concept of anima, but move it away from its current focus (you can only utilize the MAS direct-portal a limited number of times). Oh lord, now I'm rambling...

ANYWAY tl;dr, OF COURSE it's good to help us find groups and experience content in a more streamlined fashion. Nobody agrees with this more than me, with a busy schedule and limited playtime. But at the same time, I would not want to go the WoW route where I recently leveled a new character to 60 with my wife WITHOUT EVER LEAVING EXODAR (after lvl ~20 of course). This is just lame and personally does not inspire my sense of adventure whatsoever.

I also think the content finder should incorporate lots of additional functionality, like being able to specify a specific zone or quest for LFP. Like, I'm seeking experience points party in Nophica's Wells, or I'm seeking a party for Parley on the High Ground, etc.

[Cross]

I dislike the idea of content-finder aswell.
The counter "dont use it if you don't like it" doesn't work that easily...
If all ppl using this system you dont have another choice but to use it.