Jaggedy-Eared Jack and the like - Vote, please!

[Yves]

One of the aspects of FFXI that I just loved was the world NMs. What set them apart and made them fun was that they were just like any other mob - only different in name and level! I'm not a big fan of the large, visually different, and also grouped NMs of the XIV world. I loved the idea that I could solo-camp random NMs and this was a way I spent my downtime in XI - even for crap items! It was just...fun.

At the same time, the XIV NMs that aren't unique in appearance or grouped are...just not fun for the reason that they pop every 5 minutes!

Here are some of the reasons I loved these:

1. Random spawn conditions - This just made each outing more exciting since you never knew if you were going to get lucky. At the same time, I can't tell you how many times I would be traveling from Sandoria or Bastok on chocobo only to take a slight detour to check if JEJ or Lizzy were up. In addition to this, just knowing how to force-pop an NM (placeholders, time, etc) was a huge kick! I killed hours on Eastern Shadow and Argus but not solely because of the drop - a lot had to do with just getting the kill of an insanely rare mob! I also remember rushing right after maintenance to hopefully get claim on some of the more challenging mobs!

2. I met a lot of new friends - I camped JEJ, well, just because he never dropped for people! Long after I got my rabbit charm or empress pin I would often find newer players standing in one spot or traversing an area I knew all too well. Generally, I would stop and help them on THF just because I knew the feeling. And guess what? A lot of these players became friends!

3. There's just something...funny...about accidentally pulling the NM - I cannot say how many times I get a laugh thinking about E.Ranfaure(S) grinds where someone pulled the colibri NM!

4. Crappy droprates - Sure made each drop, no matter how useless, something to be proud of. At the same time, I loved hearing the stories of how someone was just walking through the caverns and happened to come across Argus only to claim, kill, and get the drop! Some of these stories grew into server fables that came up in random parties, even.

Look, I'm not asking for epic drops - that kind of thing can lead (but not always) to some poor behaviors. What I am asking for is the same kind of world NM content that gave us such endearing experiences like the ones in XI with so-so yet unique drops. The drops don't even have to be useful - they can just be for trophy purposes (I love this idea)!

These experiences were so endearing (to me, at least) that I made good on my word - on the final day of the Ifrit server I went down as I always planned to: fighting Jaggedy-eared Jack. It seemed fitting to let the server (and my character) fade to black against the first ever NM that took me down.

Please bring these back!

[Sephrick]

I hear there's a game that has mobs like that in it. Can't quite recall what it's called though...

[Antanias]

I hear there's a game that has mobs like that in it. Can't quite recall what it's called though...

Final Fantasy 11? Yup, I think that's the one.

[mikefmc]

I hear there's a game that has mobs like that in it. Can't quite recall what it's called though...

God forbid someone suggests fun content from another game made by the same company.

[Wolfie]

God forbid someone suggests fun content from another game made by the same company.

It's getting ridiculous, because every week there's a new wave of "look at this thing from FFXI! I want it in FFXIV!" It's been happening non-stop since these forums came up, and on the game's alpha and beta forums. Maybe it's time to stop, and you can suggest original content for FFXIV that expands on what we have now and fits in with the game model.

[ThePatriarch]

God forbid someone suggests fun content from another game made by the same company.

This...

Jinko, Seph, and so many others get so raged when someone even mentions FFXI. They cry foul when we remind them how many subs FFXI has versus FFXIV. They piss and moan when we propose to borrow ideas from a game that was much more fun.

To all of you, tough cookies. These forums are for the general public to talk/propose about existing and new ideas. I apologize if my opinions put your panties in a bind, I really do. But I am going to continue to try to get the Devs to implement MORE ideas. These ideas dont even need to be from existing MMO's, they can be just fun random things to think up.

But when it comes down to it, things are made so much harder when opinions and ideas are thrown out there just to have the same handful of people bombard threads and give you the reasons they don't like what you are proposing.

I love the idea of having small time NM's and large scale roaming HNMs as well. Touche OP, hopefully we will see this soon enough.

[TheVedis]

God forbid someone suggests fun content from another game made by the same company.

the problem isnt the suggestion but how they go about it

when they attach "it was in 11 therefore i want it here" thats usualy a sign that they arent really looking at any other factor

if you put forth the idea without naming other games it would be more beneficial

[Yves]

the problem isnt the suggestion but how they go about it

when they attach "it was in 11 therefore i want it here" thats usualy a sign that they arent really looking at any other factor

if you put forth the idea without naming other games it would be more beneficial

Ah, I guess the reasons that I put into why I liked it are not important.

[TheVedis]

Ah, I guess the reasons that I put into why I liked it are not important.

once you start comparing it to 11 or any other game you lose alot of people, thats the point

anything else is irrelevent the moment you start to mention what game you got the idea from

[Wolfie]

Ah, I guess the reasons that I put into why I liked it are not important.

And you couldn't say that you want rarer NMs with different pop conditions why? You saw how I agreed with you about needing different pop conditions; but not timers, dumb claim competitions, and how existing NMs aren't "fun" or whatever.

Why did this topic have to be a "I loved this in FFXI, can you please put this in FFXIV?"

Are you incapable of having suggestions to this game that don't rely on FFXI?