Thread: PLD Raise Spell in 6.0?

No. This is a terrible idea. Do not do it. It would just make PLD a permanent, guaranteed raid-slot like Warrior in HW and SB.

Originally Posted by Videra

No. This is a terrible idea. Do not do it. It would just make PLD a permanent, guaranteed raid-slot like Warrior in HW and SB.

What if it was like Confiteor, requiring Requiescat and costing 10k MP?

Considering that Clemency, the strongest non-aoe healing spell in the entire game (1200+600 total potency if used on an ally, 1800+900 during Requiescat) is very rarely used during raids, I fail to see how a basically inferior version of Raise would make it a meta pick.

I mean, Verraise is the fastest raise in the west, and yet RDM is the least played caster in raids. By a small margin, sure, but it's nowhere near the best pick.

It would at best be an extremely niche spell people will debate about for years and claim that it should be removed in favor of an actually useful skill, and at worst a spell virtually nobody uses and just wastes a slot in the PLD skillset.

Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

What if it was like Confiteor, requiring Requiescat and costing 10k MP?

Then it would become very niche. You sacrifice an entire Requiescat window (and the Confiteor) for a raise. If it was a full heal, then maybe. But that's shooting the PLD's DPS in the foot. Not even clemency can do that much gimp.

This will not only destroy the tank balance, but the balance of the whole game. Putting a raise on a tank is a bad idea because tanks tend to survive a lot of stuff wich kills DDs and healers. When the whole raid dies except the tanks and the tank can simply raise the healers then we will not wipe anymore except there is a tight enrage timer in place.

Originally Posted by Tint

This will not only destroy the tank balance, but the balance of the whole game. Putting a raise on a tank is a bad idea because tanks tend to survive a lot of stuff wich kills DDs and healers. When the whole raid dies except the tanks and the tank can simply raise the healers then we will not wipe anymore except there is a tight enrage timer in place.

When tank is forced to raise healer, then no matter how hard he will try it is wipe anyway.

sure they might have the lowest DPS of all the tanks but Paladin is already considered one of the best support tanks and has alot of utility compared to the other tanks.

Stopped reading after this.

I miss actual cross class actions, cross role skills were such a step down. I liked it when PLD had raise, it wasn't all that practical since they couldn't use it in combat, but it was still nice for flavor.

If you give pld a raise spell, then you'd have to give some kind of raise spell to the other 3 tanks as well.