I hate to, but I think I put down healing for now. Please make it engaging again, SE.

[CrimsonGunner]

Yup. The usual I see.

yup,your usual troll post i see ^^

[Sloprano]

Yup. The usual I see.

Yup, still casting Broil III and being ignore by SE. You know how it is these days.

Yet Live Letter for 5.2 is around the corner so time to make this place alive again. After all other jobs asked for changes 5.1 so who knows, maybe stars will align, karmic justice happens, hell freezes over and they adress sch, whm and ast actual gameplay there. Importantly not just in Ultimavages, but in everyday from level 1 fighting in the overworld, to solo msq to Gubal to Hades Ex to how they design them as a job.

Interestingly, if I can catch the live show, will try to pay attention to, if brought up, if they referer to ast, sch and whm by their job name or continue to adress them all as "Healers" because thats where I think SE's problem lies. Until they can start treating them as jobs first, role second we might still be suffering Male/Glare/Broil as our centerpiece.

Did mention in the Blu thread, just recapping here: As they announced BLU is not allowed in DF because they might lack spells deemed obligatory by the anonymous public and need to go to PF or premades for duties, I see no problem they could do this with previous expansions skillsets for all jobs. Let us mix and match and let lose in the overworld, PF, deep dungeons, Eureka and premades.

[althenawhm]

Even though I do want some positive changes to healers, I wouldn't bet money on them even mentioning our concerns in this next live letter.
Healers are going to be quietly swept under the rug until they bring them out again at the 6.0 fanfests and live letters.

[Mortex]

Even though I do want some positive changes to healers, I wouldn't bet money on them even mentioning our concerns in this next live letter.
Healers are going to be quietly swept under the rug until they bring them out again at the 6.0 fanfests and live letters.

Can’t wait for them in the next addon too give us old stuff back and call it the next step in healing or something, or some other hot garbage. Like giving sch fairy ui back and changing the cards back too old and sell it as new stuff . But too be fair it would really make things better.

[Billythepancake]

Can’t wait for them in the next addon too give us old stuff back and call it the next step in healing or something, or some other hot garbage. Like giving sch fairy ui back and changing the cards back too old and sell it as new stuff . But too be fair it would really make things better.

At this point, I'd take that. If all they did next expac was give SCH everything it lost this expac, I'd be fine with it. But I'm 100% sure they're just going to take away more shit and then give us more heals we don't need. I'm willing to put money on them getting rid of Energy Drain, again, and this time we won't get it back.

[Rasikko]

That seems to be how they do things. They can't add things to jobs without also taking things away. This is why I don't like it when lots of changes are suggested and why I usually just want one change. Even more so that when they screw around with one job, they tend to - for the sake of 'balance' - screw around with another unrelated job.

This is what they said about all three healers:

CU's damage reduction sucks, in that you need to root yourself and do nothing else, for that to kick in and continue. Yes yes, it has its moments, but you could be doing something else like doing damage.

So him speaking on the CU changes like it was God's gift to the universe is silly at best.

[Brandedblade]

Probably the latter. One of the few people around these parts that refuse to engage in an actual conversation and instead resort to passive aggressive posts.

I mean I did try to engage with you folks but now I'm just here to watch the show.

[Billythepancake]

I mean I did try to engage with you folks but now I'm just here to watch the show.

If that's the case and you don't want to actively contribute to the conversation then "Quiet in the peanut gallery, please"

[Sloprano]

This is what they said about all three healers:

I know they are going for least-offensive way of say it: "quality of life adjustments" "improved effectiveness" "adjustment to reduce busyness" as corporations and polticians usually do, say something without actually saying anything at all. Which works most of the time, leaves you unsatisfied but not very disappointed either which means they got away with it. Unforuntately I'm currently positively famished for something substantial and tangible and this will only continue if in 5.2 they only go "going forward our current viewpoint of considerate Healer playability landscape might not endure a temporal adjustment to overseing systems and functions with another stock of thought to outlying impressions. Our holistic apprack using Blockchain solutions will streamline the need for management visibility and Web 2.0 intergration fully." If they do bring up healers they have a golden oppertunity to forego buzzwords and straight talk about them like actual jobs.

So him speaking on the CU changes like it was God's gift to the universe is silly at best.

I will have to find the quote, but same with what we got pre-5.0 about "Scholars just shield then stand around dpsing while white mage does all the healing." There is so much wrong there aswell as nothing more was elaborated on. This all just been supporting the idea they don't play sch, whm and ast themselves or are dependent on other people who don't play them either for feedback so much the idea has foundation, wine cellar, underground parking and bomb shelter. Until they prove me wrong and show a guy with "job designer for ast/whm/sch" on his t-shirt playing them nothing is gonna rock that idea short of an apocalypse, or calamity if you wil.

[MitsukiKimura]

I mean I did try to engage with you folks but now I'm just here to watch the show.

Ah yes though your engaging conversations usually lead to nothing about the concerns we have about the healers and only "your" enjoyment of it.