I hate to, but I think I put down healing for now. Please make it engaging again, SE.

[MitsukiKimura]

So they listened to feedback. You can't even say a simple yes. You have to start with "Ah yes", then find whatever words you can to dismiss the change in order to justify this healer victim mentality.



It's not broken. It's called a GCD and animation. Everyone has it and the fairy is no exception. The fairy is doing what you tell her to do, be it following you around or stopping to cast her queued abilities. If you mash all of her abilities and then complain it takes 10 seconds for one of them cast, I have no sympathy. You cannot possibly tell me it takes 10 seconds for the fairy to cast a single Whispering Wind when she is placed in the middle of the arena. Maybe you should put some time and effort into understanding how the fairy works.

Finally, yes, you are a consumer and you get what you pay for - access to the game. You are not entitled to an explanation for every decision they make. Do you go to McDonalds and demand an explanation for why their BigMac is the way it is? Didn't think so.

So you're trying to compare Mcdonalds way of making food to SE's way of deciding things for the community? I have no words for you other than how disappointed I am at your response.

[Billythepancake]

If you mash all of her abilities and then complain it takes 10 seconds for one of them cast, I have no sympathy. You cannot possibly tell me it takes 10 seconds for the fairy to cast a single Whispering Wind when she is placed in the middle of the arena. Maybe you should put some time and effort into understanding how the fairy works.

So because I'm on mobile I really can't go and quote your other reply, but you asked the same thing. The argument of "you telling your fairy to do multiple things is making the fairy tale up to 10 seconds to use an ability" is completely irrelevant and it misses the problem entirely. If I use MY oGCD to tell fairy to use WD followed by fey blessing, or w/e, I should get both, immediately,after I press the buttons, regardless of what fairy is doing. If the game wants to treat them like pet GCDs then they need to go back on the pet hotbar (which is funny, because when they WERE on the pet hotbar they never had a delay even close to this horrid).

The only punishment you should ever have for misusing your resources is not having that resource later if/when you need it. You do not punish a WHM by using benediction->tetra on the same target by not having that tetra wait to go off 4-5 seconds later, they're punished by needing that tetra later and not having it. The same should apply to any resource. If someone manages their pet badly and uses an ability when it isn't needed, then their punishment should be not having that ability later when they need it.

[Sloprano]

Let's just throw a temper tantrum whenever we don't get exactly what we want.

This is a point needed to be adressed, as my fight for return to 3.0 sometimes loses context. I had a simple wish for 5.0 Scholar: Fun.

A bit more fleshed out: "More fun than I had in 3.0". How does one achieved this? Nobody knows, and in fear of driving this thread off it's rails on semantics will say ll I know I had great nuf in 3.0 so I knew SE was capable. Had a bit of it in 4.0 and have none in 5.0. I would've taken anything that was a busy, versatile or unorthodox, or all three, you know, like 3.0 SCH. And evolution of the job that maybe took away, but added more to make way for bold new ideas and playstyles keeping me busy all the way back to Sastasha and beyond dots and arcanist tools so they paled in comparison. The potential was unlimited and I was ready for SE to blow my mind. Instead they threw some wet cloth my way that had already stagnated when I learned Broil had gotten it's second upgrade.

Sometimes on the "stages of grief" I drop to "bargaining" to try and see it from SE's point of view, but there is nothing to see and instead memories of Selene, pet hotbar, Arcanist and Cleric stance float to the surface and Im straight back up at "Anger."

Finally, yes, you are a consumer and you get what you pay for - access to the game. You are not entitled to an explanation for every decision they make. Do you go to McDonalds and demand an explanation for why their BigMac is the way it is? Didn't think so.

Is that a food analogy on a forum? Then lets go the whole way.

Im not worried about how the burger is made, cause they constantly barrage me with ads about how the cow was grown, lettuce raised and pickles picked right my local backyard in the greenest fields I've ever seen. What Im instead worried about is what I get and it's presented: ARR was new and unfamiliar, it was my first Happy Meal, only got better longer I ate and discovered the contents. Then HW was a fantastic Big Mac and seconds with cheeseburgers, good every time. SB started to supersize my coke and fries, while good was too much filler, the burger itself had it's meat but some taste and pickles had been taken off. I decided not to ask, because, hey, it's still somewhat good but noticed I dont go as often. Now Shadowbringer's story is a double big mac with Mcflurry at the end, really good and just right for a meal. Then afterwards when you come back for more they only give you a tray full of fries and throw two buns on top and says it's the only thing on the menu. Nothing but bland, unsalted, boring, tasteless filler with no condiments with no juicy meat or vegetables and I'm real sick of filler III.

Then I decided to complain, they used to serve nice and well-filling burgers here but now all they have are fries. I try to let them know "All you have is fries! You just broil it, there is no burger left!" and it's like I don't exist as I visit their open public shareholder meetings to try and ask them but MicDonalds with madness in their eyes don't even mention the absurd amounts of fries they are trying to push and instead talk about happy meal toys that is used up after a week and I feel they've lost their way or if they ever understood what made a good burger.

[Averax]

The problem with healers now (IMO) is that it's mostly about dealing as much damage as possible while waiting for the actual raid damage to happen, which is kind of how it's always been, but it feels like the group wide damage just isn't as frequent as it could be. Most times it lines up perfectly with cooldowns. I almost always have plenary or horoscope or indom available when i need it.

If people mess up mechanics constantly? Well i have something to do... but it almost feels like i don't even need to be there half the time and am just a Glare/Malefic/Broil bot.

Like you have healers that primarily farm that laugh at the idea of ever casting regen or use any GCD healing because it would reduce their dps. That is an issue.

[GrimGale]

You could make this game have no healers. Image tank having an auto regen. The only threatening thing would be boss mechanics that essentially one shot you. Do the dance properly and you survive.

Does healing have any impact beyond the occasional unavoidable damage burst to the party?

Tanks barely need sustain. Tankbusters are severly scripted, they occur everytime tanks have their cds up.

Are healers truly needed? If healers are here to fix mistakes then why does every mechanic become instant death. Are we raise machines then?

[Mortex]

Funny enough they fixed the no healing problem in Ultimate Alexander. Titan in comparison healing wise is so relaxed. But in all other content you sleep more or less all the time as healer. And the 1 Button Spam dmg spell isn’t helping.

[Mortex]

Sure, let's ignore the fact that returning ED and the MP buff on AoW was a direct response to feedback on excess Aetherflow stacks.
Let's ignore the fact that the buff to AST was a direct response to feedback on AST being weak.

Let's just throw a temper tantrum whenever we don't get exactly what we want.

After they killed the healer and burned the remains off course we are mad. Lucky enough they could only murder astro and sch. Whm whas so bad already so they couldn’t make it worse. Sch got a the “new” fairy that is complete shit and has the problem to just eat your Inputs if you try to use more then 1 fairy ability at the same time. And ofc there were forced too give them back energy drain. Sitting in your aetherflow stacks and can’t use them because nothing happens so you are forced to overheal just to get the 10 gauge whas super annoying.Astro lost all individuality, just to get cheap balance with different colors, losing all job identity (Time theme/different cards ). And don’t forget the Great talk about Balancing ( killing) the healer so they can add one later.

[testname]

Is it just me, or is the silence from the Dev team deafening right now? There’s been a pretty significant dialogue on the state of healers ever since ShB released yet... what changes have we got so far? What acknowledgement have we got so far?? I haven’t seen much at all, it’s really disheartening that a whole role and many of its concerned/disappointed players is practically being ghosted since they don’t want to acknowledge its problems. The longer they stick their head in the sand or look the other way, the more contempt they’ll get.

Ofc it was the same with DRK in SB, and guess what they did in shbr - nothing community said was done - and everyone including me was waiting for change till 5.0

With this in mind, nothing will change till 6.0 :/

It really started to bother me, game overall is very good, but :/ I feel disconnected with "the team making game"

[testname]

So they listened to feedback. You can't even say a simple yes. You have to start with "Ah yes", then find whatever words you can to dismiss the change in order to justify this healer victim mentality.



It's not broken. It's called a GCD and animation. Everyone has it and the fairy is no exception. The fairy is doing what you tell her to do, be it following you around or stopping to cast her queued abilities. If you mash all of her abilities and then complain it takes 10 seconds for one of them cast, I have no sympathy. You cannot possibly tell me it takes 10 seconds for the fairy to cast a single Whispering Wind when she is placed in the middle of the arena. Maybe you should put some time and effort into understanding how the fairy works.

Finally, yes, you are a consumer and you get what you pay for - access to the game. You are not entitled to an explanation for every decision they make. Do you go to McDonalds and demand an explanation for why their BigMac is the way it is? Didn't think so.

o__O dunno what You even want to say

I agree with people before You

[Mesarthim]

On the next episode of LariaKirin vs the world.

I'm not even going to pretend to humor a conversation because of how dismissive you are to everyone else, kind of like a certain someone else that hangs around these parts.