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  1. #1
    Player
    abcat's Avatar
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    Vexa'ir Pheenraci
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80

    Squadrons (healing)

    I have noticed that the healer seems to not be able to keep me up (as the tank). I try to keep the gear updated, pop healing potions, but it seems like the healer is doing dps as well. It is almost as if I have to get lucky on timing to survive the final boss vale fight which is level 47. Tried it a bit ago and after 3 attempts I don't think it is going to work. I am not getting hit by the avoidable damage, but when the pods sprout when the boss hits near 50% I might as well quit soon after.

    it just isn't always the boss fights either. I noticed the HP gets very low on a pull with 3 mobs as if I got to wait a set time to get healing. Since I am trying to level a tank and with my healing class maxed i had hoped the NPC could do the job.

    Can I turn off dps from the healer?
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  2. #2
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    Callinon Soulforge
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    It always seems like the squadron healer just takes way too long to decide what it wants to do. I've seen it just stand there doing nothing while I'm getting punched squarely in the face. Then it'll pop lucid (at full mp) and start cure 2 when I hit around the 30% hp mark. It's kinda scary.
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  3. #3
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    Rivin Stormfang
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Squadron healers are very slow at healing and as far as I know there's nothing you can do about that. I recently leveled three tanks to 50+ with a lot of that time doing dungeons with my squadron, and Aurum Vale tends to be the worst. Something about certain rooms really seems to boggle the healer's AI. It's certainly doable, though; just take it slowly, use your defensive cooldowns, and avoid as much damage as possible.

    One thing to pay attention to for that dungeon, though: when you're fighting morbols (including the final boss), make sure you aren't facing the enemy towards any of the other squadron members. If one gets hit with Bad Breath, the healer is going to spend a loooong time slowly dispelling all of the debuffs that attack leaves. If two squadron members get hit...don't expect much healing for a long time.
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  4. #4
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    Ypatia Alethros
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Yeah, I tried the Vault with them once as paladin and I couldn't even get to the first boss
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  5. #5
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I wonder if being the healer yourself might fix this? I've only ever tanked for them.. how effectively can they do that themselves?
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    The trust healer is garbage as well.
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  7. #7
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    LeonTrifang's Avatar
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    Florian Nozomu
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    The trust healer is garbage as well.
    I'm sorry, I can't stay quiet about this. Trust healers are a huge step up from Squad healers. They keep you alive as long as you do decent pulls. Don't pull more then two groups, and make sure your healer is close enough to heal you without having to move. It is best to do single pulls though. Most people say the Trust healer is bad, but then proceed to pull two, to three mobs then look at the screen in shock when they fall, like they didn't just try to run through a field of saw blades wearing only their undergarments. I'm not saying you pull three mobs, but I know for a fact the Trusts can heal well enough, because I leveled my PLD purely through trusts, and now are going to do my GNB the same.
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    “Courage is the magic that turns dreams into a reality”

  8. #8
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    AriaEnia's Avatar
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    Aria Elunia
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    I dont know why you play squadron to level tanks, tanks always get instant to a few minute queue times for a dungeon or even anything.
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  9. #9
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    Crasherino's Avatar
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    Renza Everest
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    I think I've done most the dungeons with my squadron outside of 1 or 2 perhaps? I need to check as I can't remember, may have done them all, but from what I remember all dungeons excluding 2 of them are able to be done with the squadron healer, the 2 I would not recommend is Brayflox Longstop Hard (this isn't actually a healer thing) as the last boss spawns a bunch of bombs that you need to hit into the corner, it can be done with some stress as the AI ignore the bombs leaving you to individually hit them back your self, but the one dungeon I would 100% avoid with a squadron healer is Wanderer's Palace Hard, I must of wiped 4 or 5 times before giving up on the last boss as it was the same scenario on repeat, the AI just can't heal through the damage that goes off.
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  10. #10
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LeonTrifang View Post
    Don't pull more then two groups, and make sure your healer is close enough to heal you without having to move. It is best to do single pulls though.
    In other words, the trust healer is garbage. Even anxious newbie healers can do 2 pulls and follow the tank without me having to keep an eye on where they are.
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