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    Quote Originally Posted by JustNaes View Post
    ings to do to newer players.
    I know several groups and leaders who crush PUGs with just pure killing because its the most fun way to play the game. I don't condone it, but its a valid strat. 10 points for every kill. -5 points for every death. They can literally take the points earned from objective only groups by just slaughtering them. My premade has been crushed before by the sheer overwhelming force of power and I do agree, it makes you feel helpless and agitated.

    My point is you shouldn't lump all premades into a huge murder-train squadron of people. Some really like the army leading/follow aspect and making strategic decisions to win games.
    I think we should all be lumping your premade into the pug stomping group or worse considering you're advocating this. You are one of those players who is literally exploiting with 16 people in Discord for the pure purpose of pug stomping. You admitted this in a public Discord after a day of organizing light party matches with numerous groups of peoples. When asked to do it again the following night, you stated "I think people need a break and want more relaxed matches" then you proceeded to stream yourself queue syncing. If you weren't doing it to pug stomp, then why would you consider queue syncing as relaxed matches? On top of that, the literal second you faced competition, you rage quit. You're encouraging everyone to queue sync as well, but then actually get mad when others do it. This was all on your stream. You're only defending queue syncing and making up excuses because you want to pug stomp. I made it clear to you and your group of players that this was a ToS violation, and yet you're still here trying to defend yourself AND encouraging others to do it. Just stop.

    You are not playing this the way it's supposed to be played. If you were, you wouldn't be queue syncing. You'd be going in with the max party of four. As the game literally intends. Instead, you're telling everyone here to abuse a ToS violation.

    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

    ■Misuse of flaws
    "Misuse of flaws" refers to the deliberate exploitation of a fault in Final Fantasy XIV, or manipulating a feature of Final Fantasy XIV so that it does not function as intended, in order to obtain personal gain or cause disadvantage to someone else.


    Start playing how the game is currently intending you to play. It intends you to play with four. Not 200% more players than intended. Asking for eight mans back then proceeding to do it with 16 players queue syncing is the wrong way to bring attention to this. You're asking for Frontlines to be destroyed instead. You were on stream with 14 the other night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReishaLizha View Post
    sync
    Did you report him? If you want it to stop, you have to get you and your friends to stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReishaLizha View Post
    I think we should all be lumping your premade into the pug stomping group or worse considering you're advocating this. You are one of those players who is literally exploiting with 16 people in Discord for the pure purpose of pug stomping. You admitted this in a public Discord after a day of organizing light party matches with numerous groups of peoples. When asked to do it again the following night, you stated "I think people need a break and want more relaxed matches" then you proceeded to stream yourself queue syncing. If you weren't doing it to pug stomp, then why would you consider queue syncing as relaxed matches? On top of that, the literal second you faced competition, you rage quit. You're encouraging everyone to queue sync as well, but then actually get mad when others do it. This was all on your stream. You're only defending queue syncing and making up excuses because you want to pug stomp. I made it clear to you and your group of players that this was a ToS violation, and yet you're still here trying to defend yourself AND encouraging others to do it. Just stop.

    You are not playing this the way it's supposed to be played. If you were, you wouldn't be queue syncing. You'd be going in with the max party of four. As the game literally intends. Instead, you're telling everyone here to abuse a ToS violation.

    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

    ■Misuse of flaws
    "Misuse of flaws" refers to the deliberate exploitation of a fault in Final Fantasy XIV, or manipulating a feature of Final Fantasy XIV so that it does not function as intended, in order to obtain personal gain or cause disadvantage to someone else.


    Start playing how the game is currently intending you to play. It intends you to play with four. Not 200% more players than intended. Asking for eight mans back then proceeding to do it with 16 players queue syncing is the wrong way to bring attention to this. You're asking for Frontlines to be destroyed instead. You were on stream with 14 the other night.



    Oof, considering he banned me from the discord for making this forum topic, if that is true it's pretty nebulous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReishaLizha View Post
    On top of that, the literal second you faced competition, you rage quit. You're encouraging everyone to queue sync as well, but then actually get mad when others do it.
    You mean when two teams stream ghosted me and coordinated 48 people over Discord just to crush 12 players? I wouldn't exactly call it a challenge when both enemy GC's ignore each other for the sake of taking out their frustrations on my group. Its one thing to make accusations of the game not being played as intended. Its another thing to turn blind eye to other groups who are doing similar, if not out right doing worse since at that point its win-trading/griefing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustNaes View Post
    You mean when two teams stream ghosted me and coordinated 48 people over Discord just to crush 12 players? I wouldn't exactly call it a challenge when both enemy GC's ignore each other for the sake of taking out their frustrations on my group. Its one thing to make accusations of the game not being played as intended. Its another thing to turn blind eye to other groups who are doing similar, if not out right doing worse since at that point its win-trading/griefing.

    Do you always assume foul play when you lose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    Do you always assume foul play when you lose?
    Yeah, I'm so good nobody could beat me legitimately
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustNaes View Post
    You mean when two teams stream ghosted me and coordinated 48 people over Discord just to crush 12 players? I wouldn't exactly call it a challenge when both enemy GC's ignore each other for the sake of taking out their frustrations on my group. Its one thing to make accusations of the game not being played as intended. Its another thing to turn blind eye to other groups who are doing similar, if not out right doing worse since at that point its win-trading/griefing.
    So you did something bad. others do something to counter-act something bad you did, suddenly you are a victim?
    Also I don't think you are possibly that important/relevant to have people "ghost" you
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    Last edited by Yukumazi; 11-18-2019 at 03:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustNaes View Post
    You mean when two teams stream ghosted me and coordinated 48 people over Discord just to crush 12 players? I wouldn't exactly call it a challenge when both enemy GC's ignore each other for the sake of taking out their frustrations on my group. Its one thing to make accusations of the game not being played as intended. Its another thing to turn blind eye to other groups who are doing similar, if not out right doing worse since at that point its win-trading/griefing.
    Imagine thinking that 10ish people queue on Flames and 1 Mael LP is 48 people in discord. The Mael LP just queued randomly so there was no coordination. You have been bragging about your Adder queue sync since day one saying how good you guys are and pug stomping but then when another group plays against you that is doing what you are doing you complain and say that its 2 full teams of 24?!?!
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    You've now walked into extremely dangerous accusations that makes you look quite petty. It's fantastic your video stream that night of your 14 players queue syncing shows the real picture. It's also great you kindly left a Discord overlay for me to both count, and see, the players you constantly play with. It also shows the Flames sync had less people than your 14, and lastly, it shows literally four names you recognized on Maelstrom. You scrolled through every name there. It's also a shame you deleted the video (Who could ever possibly guess why? Perhaps the fact it was blatantly breaking the ToS?) I should also mention that the four players on Maelstrom were actually streaming them being in a party of four. They had been streaming for the better part of the day. This light party could have been on ANYONE's team. But apparently, that equates to 48 players being against you on Discord? That might be the biggest joke I've seen. Your constant pug stomping on Adders has caught up to you and gotten the attention of both pugs and vets alike, yet you're surprised a group of pugs will jump on the opportunity to make Adders miserable? It's funny how your mods in Discord called my accusation of 20 people on your Adders premade as a "false fact" despite there being 20 people in your Discord at the time of queue syncing all in the same VC... Yet here you are, claiming 48 is possible and claiming they're all in Discord. May I remind you you're the one who's spent this entire 18 pages basically telling people "Do the same ToS breaking exploit I do or shut up?" Now you're whining that people are pushing back? Tell me, what was the magic number you and your cronies stated in Discord for queue syncing... was it 14 or 16? It's funny, you've caused a group to start syncing only when the Adders sync is happening, and then back to LPs. Also lmao, thinking win trading even exists in Frontlines.

    Imagine playing victim when your group is responsible for starting all of this. Imagine getting upset when you can't pug stomp so you have to stop playing when people catch wind. Imagine inflating numbers to literally unbelievable numbers. You got what you asked for, Naesyboi. People started doing what you encouraged them to do, and now you're suddenly the victim being bullied. I've already stated to you both in the moderator room of your Discord when this first started, in your DMs on Discord, and here as to why this queue syncing is bad all around and against the ToS. There is nothing good that can come from this, nor will anything good come from this. Thanks for killing Frontlines. Feel free to DM me to continue this conversation, or we can do it here. It'd be improper for me to use quotes from a room that was private, though. Also, please DM me the list of all 48 players that were in Discord, queueing Frontlines, and their associated Grand Companies as well as proof of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustNaes View Post
    You mean when two teams stream ghosted me and coordinated 48 people over Discord just to crush 12 players? I wouldn't exactly call it a challenge when both enemy GC's ignore each other for the sake of taking out their frustrations on my group. Its one thing to make accusations of the game not being played as intended. Its another thing to turn blind eye to other groups who are doing similar, if not out right doing worse since at that point its win-trading/griefing.
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