The Frontlines Premade issue has not been fixed.

[Rumari]

Let's face it the majority of people who want 8 man's to be back just want their spoon for easy wins back and nothing more.

You really think that's why most people want 8 man premades back? Do you not have friends you play with in this game? Most everyone i know don't care about "easy wins" as you put it. We have friends, we want to play with those friends. And when there's more then 4 people who want to play together, people get left out and that's no fun at all. It has nothing to do with winning easily, it has to do with playing with people we enjoy playing the game with. Last i checked this was a social game meant to be played with friends. So they need to stop taking that away.

[Syrehn]

You really think that's why most people want 8 man premades back? Do you not have friends you play with in this game? Most everyone i know don't care about "easy wins" as you put it. We have friends, we want to play with those friends. And when there's more then 4 people who want to play together, people get left out and that's no fun at all. It has nothing to do with winning easily, it has to do with playing with people we enjoy playing the game with. Last i checked this was a social game meant to be played with friends. So they need to stop taking that away.

You can still have fun playing with your friends, chatting over voice comm's etc. while splitting into multiple teams of 4. It's equally as fun to play against your friends as it is to play with them on the same team.

If SE was "taking away" the social aspect then they wouldn't have left the 4 man party as an option.

[Moonlite]

You really think that's why most people want 8 man premades back? Do you not have friends you play with in this game? Most everyone i know don't care about "easy wins" as you put it. We have friends, we want to play with those friends. And when there's more then 4 people who want to play together, people get left out and that's no fun at all. It has nothing to do with winning easily, it has to do with playing with people we enjoy playing the game with. Last i checked this was a social game meant to be played with friends. So they need to stop taking that away.

You seen MSQ since 5.0?



I think a compromise could be reached. But basically it would have to be huge bonus for solo or punishment for group que. It should be like MSQ roulette a gigantic carrot to force the two groups to coexist. Or putting them in separate ques and let the two sides sink or swim.



What isn't know in these arguments is the win ratio of solo ques per groups and what size. If SE was looking at actual numbers and not just reacting. You would think over five plus players disproportionately influence the match and win rates. Why pick four why not two? Why allow it at all if it is an issue?



Also your not chasing "easy win" thing doesn't fly that well when others supporting your side have complained about how bad it is to play with casuals. Look a few posts above you how they don't like the idea of random matching. Others have said in the past they only que during 24man pops so they don't have to play with 16 other randoms.

[Saintly]

Im fairly sure they said they took that picture during the "Feast Team Season" we had at the end of Stormblood

My bad and thank you for pointing it out.
So if I understand correctly this time, people avoid playing vs other premades.

You really think that's why most people want 8 man premades back? Do you not have friends you play with in this game? Most everyone i know don't care about "easy wins" as you put it. We have friends, we want to play with those friends. And when there's more then 4 people who want to play together, people get left out and that's no fun at all. It has nothing to do with winning easily, it has to do with playing with people we enjoy playing the game with. Last i checked this was a social game meant to be played with friends. So they need to stop taking that away.

I don't see what stopping people from making 2 4-man parties and hanging together in discord.

Also I played/play vs my friends/guild in a lot of games including FFXIV and really had just as much fun, since we don't complete for ranking or anything.

So yeah, I really think and most of the posts so far prove me right that its all about the winrate rather than playing with friends.