Quote Originally Posted by chris4 View Post
I am going to reply to your obvious bait post (when I really shouldn't) and just leave you with this. being from the rank 1 pvp team in ranked team feast on primal last season, this is my experience with a premade vs premade pvp mode in FFXIV. Over 5 hours in queue during primetime during a season (date/time of screenshot is 6/26/19 at 10:49pm) and yeah you guessed it, people dodged rather than grind against each other to get better. They would rather the effortless win or maybe even just a chance of winning against other teams instead of grinding away vs the top premade to get better. Unfortunately for me, this supports Brian's point about people just wanting a 90% wr and easy games, but I never argued against that, there will always be people like that, there will always be people afking in frontlines for the tomes, there will always be people afking in alliance raids, main story roulettes, and other duties because they want things effortlessly handed too them, this isnt a pvp problem, this is a FFXIV player problem. I would rather they don't just add another dead mode because people refuse to grind against people better than them to get better, which again, is a problem that extends further than just FFXIV pvp.
I think you missed my point, I was not talking about feast, but a premade only queue for FL.

Also don't really see why would anyone queue in ranked feast solo or pre during off-season.

I was just pointing out that people who ask for 8 man premades to be allowed again (well the overwhelming majority at least since there are obviously exceptions) don't want just to be able to queue as premade, they want to queue in mode that no matter what includes PuGs, completely ignoring the suggestions for pre vs pre modes mode that would allow them to play with their friends and that no-one would be against.

Let's face it the majority of people who want 8 man's to be back just want their spoon for easy wins back and nothing more.

Sorry if I missed any points or for any grammars posting from phone, well review my post and discussion asap I'm back home.