The Frontlines Premade issue has not been fixed.

[Saintly]

Again I doubt anyone would be against a mode that matches pre vs pre only.

As I had said asap the patch notes where released premades, those who played in premade would go in full panic mode cause they lost the spoon.

Also it's funny bringing up skill when we talk about FL's.
Looking forward seeing the solo/team ranking on feast of those who claim it's skill that matters and not premade advantages. (That is if they don't avoid ranked feast like the plague.)

[Nanne]

Again I doubt anyone would be against a mode that matches pre vs pre only.

Back when there was only Chaos the highest amount of premade players I saw at the same time was 16 and that isnt even enough to make 1 match happen even if they brought back 24 player matches :P Yes the people could make times when they would agree to queue against each other but that would seem to require alot of work to make pops happen o.o Also would there be any rewards in these "premade vs premade" queues? Cause that would be just asking for people to just trade quick wins/rewards against each other.

[A-res]

Moving mass players to 1 GC and 1-2-3 sync queuing solo to stack win ratio's in ones favour and rofl stomp pug groups is douche baggery no matter how you try to sugar coat it.

PUGs that queue into PvP and do zero effort just to get rewards is also douche baggery no matter how you try to sugar coat it.

I premade to stay away from a full party of these PUGs. There should be no excuse for this type of gameplay.

[Coopa]

Chaos premades dont use voice or chat,maximum what we have its "SANDWICH ALERT <se.11>" and we dont play objective,we just do pvp in pvp.
Btw most of time 4 people more that enouth to win 8\10 macthes in 72 because other people just bad

[Kisama]

Moving mass players to 1 GC and 1-2-3 sync queuing solo to stack win ratio's in ones favour and rofl stomp pug groups is douche baggery no matter how you try to sugar coat it.

Okay, here's the thing. You're not wrong. It absolutely is.

However, playing with PUGS is absolutely awful. I'll take full premades or a stacked alliance over PUGS, sorry.

[BrianRicardo]

You can play with friends without having to Grand Company stack with 24 people. You do NOT have to be on the same team to play with people. Just like playing a board game, card game, fighting game, racing game or whatever. If the goal is to have good competition as I'm reading it would be better matches to separate teams and go Premade vs Premade. If people are willing to Q sync together, why are people not willing to Q sync against each other?

So, let's not twist it. We know the majority goal is to use a loophole, have 90% win rates and eat people for dinner. This was not a necessity to people when 8 man premades were possible. Yes, they dominated but not to that level. I could join in on the fun of doing that too...but its pretty grey area and not healthy for PvP overall. Bring back 8 man premades or yeah just rework grand company system perhaps to all freelancers. 4 Man premades is not the best situation, but it's not totally "omg I can't play with friends"

[A-res]

Also it's funny bringing up skill when we talk about FL's.
Looking forward seeing the solo/team ranking on feast of those who claim it's skill that matters and not premade advantages. (That is if they don't avoid ranked feast like the plague.)

Don't you bring the epeen measuring stick to this thread. Especially when the game is focused on teamwork gameplay. Ranking boards in Aether nowadays is irrelevant thanks to win traders and those who sell wins. You probably don't immerse yourself in Aether PvP community enough to know that.

There is premade advantages, you're right about that. It's a team of people that want to win where PUGs you have a mixed bag of people that do want to win / don't care. I played in different Data Centers where PUGs actually can fight back against premades. Just because Aether PUGs are trash, why do everyone else has to suffer for their incompetence?

[Toffa]

Premades losing freelancer que feels like an oversight to me, I doubt that'll stay

Forcing Freelancer on everyone is an incredibly bad idea.
The entire reason we have this situation in the first place is because no one wants to deal with the indolence of people who refuse to even look at Squeenix's own playguide (That has a button to bring it up IN-GAME mind you), nor do they want to risk upsetting these people and getting reported for trying to get them to do even basic things like build meter and keep gcds rolling or have the map open.
I believe if people had to choose between forced random pvp and peace of mind, most people would choose peace of mind.

[Saintly]

Oh well, i did prove my point so no point arguing with anyone anymore for me.
If anything i'd vote even for 24 man premades to be allowed if they can pull that.

I just hope that they ain't gonna allow duos or anything in ranked Feast since its currently the only PvP that player skill matters.

Anyway, one way or another i highly doubt that they care about NA or EU players opinions.
So lets just wait and see what JP players decide.

LE: Let the new season begin already.

[BloodRubyXII]

You can play with friends without having to Grand Company stack with 24 people. You do NOT have to be on the same team to play with people. Just like playing a board game, card game, fighting game, racing game or whatever. If the goal is to have good competition as I'm reading it would be better matches to separate teams and go Premade vs Premade. If people are willing to Q sync together, why are people not willing to Q sync against each other?

So, let's not twist it. We know the majority goal is to use a loophole, have 90% win rates and eat people for dinner. This was not a necessity to people when 8 man premades were possible. Yes, they dominated but not to that level. I could join in on the fun of doing that too...but its pretty grey area and not healthy for PvP overall. Bring back 8 man premades or yeah just rework grand company system perhaps to all freelancers. 4 Man premades is not the best situation, but it's not totally "omg I can't play with friends"

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