Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
I'm on Aether! It's not always pre-made as you might think. Sure there are linkshells and discord for pvp players to join. I was an Adder last year, this year I'm Maelstrom. Last year Adders sucked and Maelstrom was call out for being pre-made. Same crud diffrent team. Thing was the discord and linkshell I was in was made up of all three GC's.

Do pre-mades know more about what is expected in Frontline? Sure they do! Do we not have a an influx of players playing FFXIV from other MMO's? Are they in Frontline? Sure they are and they are running amuck at times, playing their style of PvP the way they are used to playing it previously in other games. If at each match you could explain to everyone of your team exactly what is needed to win versus saying nothing at all to those PUG's in Frontline, I guarantee you'd fair far better. I also notice teams fair better when there is a Field Commander making the calls versus those teams without any direction whatsoever. Let's just say it takes the right kind of recipe to have a prize winning pie. Thus why players in pvp, want to join a circle of like minded people, nothing wrong in that. So I would stop assuming pre-mades are to blame and take up a position for your team to encourage their chance of winning. Rally your team each match and stop blaming it on pre-mades.



Both Mael and Flames have groups that go in together. But Adders have the most that go most often. I know stomps are not always premades, but unless there's two groups of premades against each other, it's almost always a stomp in favor of said premade. I've led matches, many times to wins. I'm away you can herd and help PUGs. I have more faith in them than some that think the opposite in this topic, but I've also seen my fair share of people lose interest after being stomped constantly by premades when they are queueing.



People keep saying others don't care or don't try or don't want to take charge, but they don't want to be the one to change things and rather give up on everyone else. And it's mainly FL that has this problem. Feast and RW have the same people trying out those modes and people try a lot more in those. The difference is that queue abuse is harder for those two modes.