The Frontlines Premade issue has not been fixed.

[BubblyBoar]

I think we should all be lumping your premade into the pug stomping group or worse considering you're advocating this. You are one of those players who is literally exploiting with 16 people in Discord for the pure purpose of pug stomping. You admitted this in a public Discord after a day of organizing light party matches with numerous groups of peoples. When asked to do it again the following night, you stated "I think people need a break and want more relaxed matches" then you proceeded to stream yourself queue syncing. If you weren't doing it to pug stomp, then why would you consider queue syncing as relaxed matches? On top of that, the literal second you faced competition, you rage quit. You're encouraging everyone to queue sync as well, but then actually get mad when others do it. This was all on your stream. You're only defending queue syncing and making up excuses because you want to pug stomp. I made it clear to you and your group of players that this was a ToS violation, and yet you're still here trying to defend yourself AND encouraging others to do it. Just stop.

You are not playing this the way it's supposed to be played. If you were, you wouldn't be queue syncing. You'd be going in with the max party of four. As the game literally intends. Instead, you're telling everyone here to abuse a ToS violation.

2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

■Misuse of flaws
"Misuse of flaws" refers to the deliberate exploitation of a fault in Final Fantasy XIV, or manipulating a feature of Final Fantasy XIV so that it does not function as intended, in order to obtain personal gain or cause disadvantage to someone else.

Start playing how the game is currently intending you to play. It intends you to play with four. Not 200% more players than intended. Asking for eight mans back then proceeding to do it with 16 players queue syncing is the wrong way to bring attention to this. You're asking for Frontlines to be destroyed instead. You were on stream with 14 the other night.

Oof, considering he banned me from the discord for making this forum topic, if that is true it's pretty nebulous.

[Astrololol]

wow wat do u know, another mention of lumping people up to pug stomp. yo this ain't a problem tho

[Mistress_Irika]

It took me a while to understand this thread. I think I can go ahead and say what needs to be said.

I'll start off by saying that the problem isn't the premades. I've only invested 2 years into the game, and I can say that the problem was there before I started pvping. The fact that it lingered for that long doesn't make sense. I don't understand why those who usually play with others now have to be the ones to suffer with SE's decision(s). If this problem is not looked into it could potentially affect everyone.

It does suck that some people are being abusive with solo queue with VC. I hope that situation gets solved soon. I won't say that I totally disagree with the idea of freelance being mandatory. However, I will say that it will be more harmful if that was enforced, as it will affect those that are also playing with their friends. Not everyone queues in a chosen GC just for a win. There are some loyal ones that end up making friends and, in return, get better at the game as a whole. Making friends that way is no different from meeting new people going in a full party premade. The changes made is already hurting those that usually queues more than 4 people. Why should they get punished for winning majority of their games? Why should loyal non-freelancers be next because of actions from certain people?

Speaking of which, why is premades being blamed for a group of people's actions in the first place? Unless I miss something that SE put down I could have sworn that premades queue in freelanced, regardless of each person's original GC. I'm confused there. I don't see a reason why premades would need a reason to sync queue in the first place.

Taking 24 man frontlines away was a mistake. It's already difficult for one premade to carry 16 other people for various reasons, main reason being the difficulty of getting everyone on the same page. By cutting premades in half it's virtually nonexistent if they decide to make their move without having that support behind them.

We're better off just reverting the changes that was made regarding premades. Again, they're not the problem. I believe it's people not adapting to their games that is causing the problem. The option to form full party premades has been removed, and yet I still see that problem. This type of problem shouldn't required SE to change certain things to make it easier. If adding a 15 sec invincibility timer didn't help with dealing with groups that are by another team's spawn camp I don't see how limiting the premade groups to 4 people would help, especially if you have certain players following other successful players. This is coming from playing solo majority of the time. Some people just need to adapt from game to game.

Again, sorry to those that have to deal with that exploit. I hope that situation gets better. I just don't see how enforcing mandatory freelancing would help overall without affecting the loyal non-freelancers.

[Awha]

The age old issue of online play. This should be fun.

[JuliusRath]

You are not playing this the way it's supposed to be played. If you were, you wouldn't be queue syncing. You'd be going in with the max party of four. As the game literally intends. Instead, you're telling everyone here to abuse a ToS violation.

2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

■Misuse of flaws
"Misuse of flaws" refers to the deliberate exploitation of a fault in Final Fantasy XIV, or manipulating a feature of Final Fantasy XIV so that it does not function as intended, in order to obtain personal gain or cause disadvantage to someone else.

Start playing how the game is currently intending you to play. It intends you to play with four. Not 200% more players than intended. Asking for eight mans back then proceeding to do it with 16 players queue syncing is the wrong way to bring attention to this. You're asking for Frontlines to be destroyed instead. You were on stream with 14 the other night.

Mmmmm, butter on popcorn is wearing off on me, guess I should try chocolate syrup

[Crit]

Wait did you just draw that..

HOW DO THEY LOOK JUST LIKE US

[NessaWyvern]

Mmmmm, butter on popcorn is wearing off on me, guess I should try chocolate syrup

Since you said earlier that this thread is getting more spicy, might I suggest chilli flakes for your popcorn, and maybe some lime?
Might give it a bit of a tasty kick

[JustNaes]

On top of that, the literal second you faced competition, you rage quit. You're encouraging everyone to queue sync as well, but then actually get mad when others do it.

You mean when two teams stream ghosted me and coordinated 48 people over Discord just to crush 12 players? I wouldn't exactly call it a challenge when both enemy GC's ignore each other for the sake of taking out their frustrations on my group. Its one thing to make accusations of the game not being played as intended. Its another thing to turn blind eye to other groups who are doing similar, if not out right doing worse since at that point its win-trading/griefing.

[FirstnameLastname]

"Guys I totally broke the ToS but others did it more big time, please respect my playstyle. Thank you."

Yeah, right buddy.

[Atreus]

You mean when two teams stream ghosted me and coordinated 48 people over Discord just to crush 12 players? I wouldn't exactly call it a challenge when both enemy GC's ignore each other for the sake of taking out their frustrations on my group. Its one thing to make accusations of the game not being played as intended. Its another thing to turn blind eye to other groups who are doing similar, if not out right doing worse since at that point its win-trading/griefing.

Do you always assume foul play when you lose?