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  1. #51
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    Bonbori's Avatar
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    Iunia Arcena
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Memes aside, Rescue is a very useful tool not just for fixing mistakes but also for optimising play in organised groups. My static always uses Rescue after a Limit Break to cancel the LBer's animation lock and thus buy them one or more GCDs of uptime, in addition to potentially pulling them out of danger. We also sometimes use it just to allow a caster to turret as much as possible before pulling them to safety. That is risky and not always reliable due to the Rescue lag but... it's a fun thing to do! It's a creative use of a tool at our disposal that nets us a bit of extra dps and that feels good. And I think that outweighs any once in a blue moon trolling that someone might experience in a low-stakes environment with pugs.

    And in any serious content, if someone's Rescue trolling hurts the team effort, that person earns the boot. Don't blame a tool for the actions of its user, just deal with the user.

    And even in terms of helpful pug applications, Rescue EXISTS to get new players through Orbonne, against their will if one has to. I've lost track of all the times I had to pull someone into Dusk Blade circles >.>
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    Last edited by Bonbori; 11-07-2019 at 03:10 AM.

  2. #52
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I also saw someone get saved with Rescue in Frontlines yesterday; I almost had them dead in the ground and they got yoinked away back into their team, saving them.
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  3. #53
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    In my experience the healers i have been with use it properly. However this is from a tank perspective. From a dps perspective I can see how this can be abused or trolling when a healer rescue's you into bad or for no reason.
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  4. #54
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I'll have you know I have to use this skill constantly actually rescuing people whenever I do Copied Factory.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

  5. #55
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    It's a great skill, I've saved my co-healer when a run was going badly and they were LB3 locked, pulled people into shares so we don't die, and yes, a lot of good-natured trolling ON MY FRIENDS, when we care about having fun instead of parses. My absolute favorite was pulling a friend at random right before the DDR phase in Suzaku and change places with them, keeps them on their toes.

    I WISH my healers Rescued a couple of people into my Improvisation circle, too, those 78/76 on my Esprit bar drive my OCD insane <.<
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  6. #56
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    How exactly widespread of a problem is it though? The only time I've seen Rescued used outside of its intended purpose is when its me and FC mates dicking around with each other.

    I get it is an ability that people can troll with, but if figure argument for removal should be based on how prevalent of a problem it is, because it has its uses too. We have multiple ways for people to screw with you in a dungeon too and not just Rescue.
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  7. #57
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    RowanLauron's Avatar
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    Rowan Lauron
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    This OP is a troll, stop feeding it.
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  8. #58
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    Alloou Trick
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    Sargatanas
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I'd like video proof, starting from queueing for PUG, showing how prevalent this problem is.
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  9. #59
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    Samuel Fernguard
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    Louisoix
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Rescue is fine, it's the people who use it incorrectly to troll and harass who need to go. Big difference.
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  10. #60
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    The Protector
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    Aegis
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Should we also remove Shirk and as we are talking about healer, any of the many heal spells? This is a team-based game, if you don't like other team members contributing to your experience then you are playing the wrong game. The game has already suffered enough from team skill pruning. The battle system was far more fun, particular for me as I play tank, when we had skills like diversion, palisade, shadewalker, smokescreen, cover in it's previous form etc. The toolkit was far more varied and unique, and now we are all cookie-cutter jobs all within our own lane, don't perpetuate that.

    FYI, anyone abusing anything should result in you reporting that person, not asking for the battle system to be changed for the worse.


    Edit: You don't have any jobs at 80 OP, maybe wait until endgame before you start asking for abilities to be removed. Rescue can be a godsend in raid, particularly PF raid, and can save runs if people make mistakes, or increase DPS uptime (free AM for BLM?) if the group knows what they are doing.
    The fact that you tried to equate rescue to shirk totally convinces me that you have no idea how Shirk works. Maybe wait until you actually know about what it is you're talking about before giving any input in a discussion.
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