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    The Rescue Skill Has to Go

    I'm gonna go on a bit of a rant here...

    I think the Rescue skill for the Healer role is absolutely atrocious, and needs to be eliminated. I have seen far too many instances of that skill being abused, such as a healer trying to pull a tank along further into a dungeon duty because the healer doesn't like the tank's pace, or a healer deliberately pulling somebody right into the path of an AoE attack out of spite. This is not right.

    A player should only be able to control his/her own movements, and not have the ability to control those of another player. People need to focus on their own movements and actions, and let others handle their own. I can play the game myself; I don't need anybody else to do it for me!
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    "Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ." --Colossians 3:23-24 (ESV)

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    ye i agree, with you in this rescue spell, happened i removed the spell myself for even if you saving the run, you ruin the fun, get it?
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    I personally love the rescue ability as a healer. There have been countless times where I've seen people stand in the wrong pathway of an incoming attack or aoe and it feeling of saving them from death to having them thank you is a good feeling. I've hardly or rarely seen healers use rescue to pull someone into death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    I personally love the rescue ability as a healer. There have been countless times where I've seen people stand in the wrong pathway of an incoming attack or aoe and it feeling of saving them from death to having them thank you is a good feeling. I've hardly or rarely seen healers use rescue to pull someone into death.
    But on the other hand, how will these people learn if a healer is holding their hands through it? Sometimes a mistake needs to be made in order for a concept to be reinforced, and then the chance of it happening again is greatly minimized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakugekiki View Post
    But on the other hand, how will these people learn if a healer is holding their hands through it? Sometimes a mistake needs to be made in order for a concept to be reinforced, and then the chance of it happening again is greatly minimized.
    Contrary to popular belief, (some) dps are capable of learning from cases where they dont take massive damage / die. Like someone yanking them halfway over the arena.

    To be honest I wouldn't care either way, just wanted to point that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakugekiki View Post
    But on the other hand, how will these people learn if a healer is holding their hands through it? Sometimes a mistake needs to be made in order for a concept to be reinforced, and then the chance of it happening again is greatly minimized.
    mighty bold of you to assume people will learn from their mistakes for why they died, instead of just blaming the healer anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    mighty bold of you to assume people will learn from their mistakes for why they died, instead of just blaming the healer anyways.
    Perhaps not everybody will learn, but some do. They just need to play the game for themselves.
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    Should we also remove Shirk and as we are talking about healer, any of the many heal spells? This is a team-based game, if you don't like other team members contributing to your experience then you are playing the wrong game. The game has already suffered enough from team skill pruning. The battle system was far more fun, particular for me as I play tank, when we had skills like diversion, palisade, shadewalker, smokescreen, cover in it's previous form etc. The toolkit was far more varied and unique, and now we are all cookie-cutter jobs all within our own lane, don't perpetuate that.

    FYI, anyone abusing anything should result in you reporting that person, not asking for the battle system to be changed for the worse.


    Edit: You don't have any jobs at 80 OP, maybe wait until endgame before you start asking for abilities to be removed. Rescue can be a godsend in raid, particularly PF raid, and can save runs if people make mistakes, or increase DPS uptime (free AM for BLM?) if the group knows what they are doing.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 11-06-2019 at 05:16 PM.

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    I would love to have more skills like rescue.
    Hell, I want a PvEvP gamemode were you have to try to kill other player with pulls, knockbacks, aoes, etc.

    Btt. Rescue is a awesome skill and without it, many player would have died in Baldesions Arsenal.
    It's just a awesome feeling when you rescue the out of position DPS into safety so he can continue the dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakugekiki View Post
    But on the other hand, how will these people learn if a healer is holding their hands through it? Sometimes a mistake needs to be made in order for a concept to be reinforced, and then the chance of it happening again is greatly minimized.
    People don't learn. And if they do, they are more like to learn from somebody dragging them with Rescue than from the hit. In either case it's the healer who has to clean up the mess, it's just more convenient to prevent the damage while there is nothing else going on, instead of waiting for the failure when new mechanics start. Rescue makes healing easier.

    The skill could use some boost tho. Personally I would change it into 5 seconds Hallowed Ground which would improve it's usage and utility - and limit the pulling-in-aoe abuse that you mentioned.
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

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