Roleplay Solo Dungeons - Can we just stop Square?

[Thi]

Really tired of these gimmick solo dungeons playing as another character every patch. The newest one isn't as bad as previous ones in terms of design, but it still was boring and unfulfilling. Everything done in it could have just been shown as a cutscene, or not really at all because it honestly had very little story value.

I don't want to play as story character #238. I want to play as my character.

[PyurBlue]

I think it would be nice if they were optional and could be replaced by cutscenes. Alternatively, having more skills available could make them more fun. All I did in the last one was run in a circle pressing 2 buttons.

[Lacan]

I like them, they're few and far between and make whatever is going on stand out more than if you just watched it in a cutscene. You play as your character 95% of the time. You can handle being someone else for a little while.

I mean, that's the point of the echo...

[Noitems]

I like them, they're few and far between and make whatever is going on stand out more than if you just watched it in a cutscene. You play as your character 95% of the time. You can handle being someone else for a little while.

I mean, that's the point of the echo...

I think that's a pleasant thing the XIV can give us that does make sense not only in gameplay but in the lore. Remember the days when we would watch a cutscene play out and have no involvement with it past seeing it happen? Now we actually have more chances to play as our favorite characters and see how it is actively in their eyes.

The Thancred fight for example was really cool seeing how Thancred was losing control in the middle of it and had to regain his composure. A cutscene will tell us one thing but being there as him in the fight itself is a whole new level of expression.

We can complain about some things but based on this recent patch and them taking care of the Hien instance, it does seem like they want to give us more and make them better.

Add in that with more characters including new ones to anti-heros like Gauis/Estinien we can have chances to play as people we would never dream of prior. New ways to experience the story and a chance to let players see how the other jobs do handle.

I'm sure for many people they would have NEVER experienced how it was healing if the Yshtola roleplay fight wasn't there. Same as people not knowing how it is to Tank doing the Thancred fight.

[Ilenya]

I'm sure for many people they would have NEVER experienced how it was healing if the Yshtola roleplay fight wasn't there. Same as people not knowing how it is to Tank doing the Thancred fight.

Ah, yes. I remember how well that went down.

"I'm a DPS, why should I be forced to heal???"

People didn't take it as a chance to experience healing. People took it as an affront to their happy little DPS playstyle.

[PyurBlue]

People didn't take it as a chance to experience healing. People took it as an affront to their happy little DPS playstyle.

To be fair, what of healing was there to experience except looking at a HP bar that wasn't yours? The classes we play in these instances are really simple. No more complex than playing a real class at level 10 at best. You could get a similar healing experience similar to the Y'shtola instance playing Arcanist in a dungeon, which is a DPS. Understandably SE wants these to be accessible to everyone, but that's going to make them boring for more advanced players and limit how much of a class you'll get to experience. It's a tricky problem though, because even if I was given the complexity to make them fun, I'd need to spend time rearranging my skills before or possibly during the event.

[Ilenya]

To be fair, what of healing was there to experience except looking at a HP bar that wasn't yours? The classes we play in these instances are really simple. No more complex than playing a real class at level 10 at best. You could get a similar healing experience similar to the Y'shtola instance playing Arcanist in a dungeon, which is a DPS. Understandably SE wants these to be accessible to everyone, but that's going to make them boring for more advanced players and limit how much of a class you'll get to experience. It's a tricky problem though, because even if I was given the complexity to make them fun, I'd need to spend time rearranging my skills before or possibly during the event.

But that's not what people were complaining about. They were complaining that they shouldn't have to heal period. It wasn't even a particularly hard fight, though I imagine people who weren't used to stutterstepping casts would have more issues, but people were just all over complaining about it.

[Fawkes]

they're few and far between

They've been doing it non-stop since 4.3

[Mavrias]

They've been doing it non-stop since 4.3

If by "non-stop" you mean "6 times total," sure.

[Fawkes]

If by "non-stop" you mean "6 times total," sure.

Doing it every time they add main story quests is what "non-stop" means. They did it in 4.3, they did it in 4.4, they did it in 4.5, they did it in 5.0, they did it in 5.1.