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  1. #11
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 89
    I like your ideas. I generally give commendations if people are helpful, play well or are simply good company, but very often I find people leave before I can comm them. In that case, I assume they don't actually want the commendation, so I'm not sure I'd give one to someone who had already left the instance, even if I could.
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  2. #12
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    Sonja Summertide
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 64

    Typical Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    I have accumulated over 3k over the past years.

    After reading this thread though, it occurred to me that I don't often see a notice of this in chat and then also I realised that I actually forget to commend people.

    I just don't think about it, I run as soon as I enter the dungeon, pop sprint right before the first pack, keep running until sprint falls off, AoE everything down, rinse and repeat.
    As soon as the last boss dies (usually I don't need any of the loot anyway) I hit U and select leave (faster then manually running to the circle on the end to leave).

    I just speed run all dungeons and I just totally forget about the commending thing. Only thing I do is say 'Hi' & 'Thanks, bye' (which are also on macro's because ... faster).
    Hmm let's see you macro your hello and goodbye, you don't ask if anyone needs advice with mechanics, you don't check in with your healer before going turbo and of course you never think to comm anyone else. "I've got mine so forget you all", right?
    I used to look forward to having a crown in my group. I used to find them polite and friendly and generally nice to play with. But now that I've made a new character since returning to the game I find that is no longer the case. Any respect I had for the crowns has vanished.
    Thank you for confirming what I suspected.
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  3. #13
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
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    Just let me comm people that already left.
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  4. #14
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    Pixiehawk's Avatar
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    Pixie Hawk
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    Just let me comm people that already left.
    This. By the time I load when the fights done I'm lucky there's anyone left in the instance. I'd love to actually commend on occasion.
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  5. #15
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Brynhildr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    All I'd want to see is the ability to comm someone who left (though maybe they left because they didn't want comms, I've done this) and the ability to comm multiple people.
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  6. #16
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    rachcouture's Avatar
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    Taylor Swiftsong
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    A forced commendation dialog wouldn't change anything; people already apathetic on commendations will either click the first name in the list, or scroll down to the 'do not commend' option without a second thought. In my case, it'd be an annoyance for the unfortunately frequent situation where I don't feel ANYONE performed well enough to earn a commendation. I would like to be able to comm people that have left, though; sometimes the only person that I felt did something positive bails before I have the chance.

    Quote Originally Posted by SonjaSummertide View Post
    Hmm let's see you macro your hello and goodbye, you don't ask if anyone needs advice with mechanics, you don't check in with your healer before going turbo and of course you never think to comm anyone else. "I've got mine so forget you all", right?
    I used to look forward to having a crown in my group. I used to find them polite and friendly and generally nice to play with. But now that I've made a new character since returning to the game I find that is no longer the case. Any respect I had for the crowns has vanished.
    Thank you for confirming what I suspected.
    Basing all of that spite over one forum post seems needlessly hasty.
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    Last edited by rachcouture; 11-04-2019 at 10:37 PM.

  7. #17
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibikii View Post
    Tanks and healers tend to receive commendations if they saved the parties ass in raids, otherwise no-one commends a tank for tanking or a healer for healing. That's a sad reality. Go back two years and a tank would get most comms, not anymore (again based on a number of EU worlds).
    That is not how it works here, or at least for me. I am lucky to receive ONE commendation for solo healing the entire raid, as evidenced in 'The Copied Factory'. I actively rescue, and resurrect people dying to stupid over and over and over and over and over and over and over, and GET NOTHING. That's how it is. Commendations are random everywhere, you are lucky to be acknowledged at all.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

  8. #18
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    Abel Archani
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hibikii View Post
    The current commendation system has a few key flaws that could be improved.
    Namely:
    • no incentive for players to commend anyone
    • no rewards for using the commendation system (a small challenge log reward not included)
    • the inability to commend players that leave a duty early

    All of these factors make it increasingly difficult for new players and players who, for any reason, had to or chose to start a new character. In relation to the mentoring system this makes it nearly impossible and certainly not feasible for players to work towards becoming a PvP/PvE mentor in any realistic time frame.

    This holds especially true for anyone who was allowed to become a mentor under the temporary 500 commendations rule that has now been raised by a steep 200% requirement.

    After some consideration the following changes would likely benefit the commendation system:
    • a selection the commendation dialog should be required to leave a duty
    • in accordance to the prior point - an option "chose not to commend" should be added
    • include the ability to commend party members that already left the duty

    There's more options like allowing additional flavors to the commendations like "skilled dps player", "good party support" etc. but the main idea is to have a player have to interact with the commendation window - even if it's just to click "chose not to commend".
    As things stand now - especially on new worlds - players simply rush out of duties without giving as much as a consideration to the commendation window, so raising awareness of it could greatly help.

    NOTE: this suggestion is written from an EU-perspective based on the observed commendation behaviour of three worlds and is not necessarily applicable to other worlds / regions or data centers.
    Ohhh hey look; another thread of people whinning about the game
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  9. #19
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Except it is not whining?
    OP was making suggestions to improve the system as were other players...
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  10. #20
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Phoenix
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    Bard Lv 90
    there should be no rewards for giving commendations, you are not suppossed to instantly get mentor status and if you started playing in 2019, you should not be a mentor if you ask from me anyway.
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