Thread: Are the bard 'buffs' a Halloween prank?

Seriously... 1%? Don't try to tell me it adds up... No one in any normal content will every see an actual difference in their damage or their crits. The only people who will see a difference are the people who are running Savages and pouring over dps parses and scrutinizing them.

SE, make bards actual bards and provide reasonable buffs to their party. My interest in bard died entirely in ShB even though it was my main because you gutted absolutely anything support they had!! Then you add it back just for us to find out it is some of the most useless buffs on the planet. What a slap in the face.

Originally Posted by Bawnawgwa

Seriously... 1%? Don't try to tell me it adds up... No one in any normal content will every see an actual difference in their damage or their crits. The only people who will see a difference are the people who are running Savages and pouring over dps parses and scrutinizing them.

SE, make bards actual bards and provide reasonable buffs to their party. My interest in bard died entirely in ShB even though it was my main because you gutted absolutely anything support they had!! Then you add it back just for us to find out it is some of the most useless buffs on the planet. What a slap in the face.

These buffs have an almost 100% uptime. What on Eorzea did you expect?

Bard song buffs in Stormblood were so powerful as to make many other jobs obsolete. Square was scared of having any party-wide buff added that has a 100% up time, so if they played it conservatively, they can always add more to it later. If they over buffed it to start with, it's a lot harder to remove or nerf it without a massive backlash.

So far, the estimates are that the added BRD buffs give about 700~800 rDPS to a full party. And they will scale higher as our gear scales in later patches. Overall, the BRD theorycrafters are classifying it as a win.

The 2% passive crit back in SB suffered from massive power creep the higher critical hit scaled. It was pretty strong, and I’d wager that these buffs are similarly strong. +1% straight damage for 30 seconds every time a BRD is in Minuet may seem small to you, but it adds up. The +2% critical hit up on Mage’s is in the same boat.

You gotta remember, these are party-wide. 1% is a bump of one in every 100 attacks, yes, but in a 4-person party? That's 4 instances of 1:100. Effectively, this averages to 4:100, since all of those 100 skills per person are being used simultaneously (there is some skew based on skill/spell speed and the actual base states being affected, which would only make this MORE powerful, but that's a lot more practical math and it's late here). In an 8 person party, obviously, this becomes 8:100.

Effectively?
4-person = 1 in 25
8-person = 1 in 12.5

It's not that it just adds up in the sense of "over time," it also compounds based on the number of party members, themselves. And I think a statistically-guaranteed whole bonus critical's worth of numbers every 13 attacks ain't too shabby.

Now it in a law for all ultimate raider to have 1 bard in the static.

Originally Posted by Pour

Bis bards barely scratch the 12.5k mark on a dummy, 12.2k might be more realistic while MCHs probably do about 14k.

Thats 12.5k aDPS not 12.5k rDPS, rDPS is the one that people care about. Don't parse with a dummy on BRD, its not accurate

Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

+1% straight damage for 30 seconds every time a BRD is in Minuet

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/bard/

Then the tooltip in game and the website are wrong, that's where the mistake come from.
I though it was weird to put the straight damage increase on Ballad since the raid burst has ended once you use it. But if it's actually in Minuet but texts are wrong, then it's better.