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  1. #21
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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    http://ffxivrotations.com/2fu8

    This is the full rotation, single weave, that I use in general(A.K.A "why is the DNC and RDM not in melee range?") and if no one in the party has any kind of raid buff that increases damage dealt, with Bloodfest lining up with the 4th No Mercy after the 1st.

    My gear is ilvl 460 full deepshadow gear with 1 augmented facet ring of fending.

    Critical Hit stat is 2196, Determination stat is 2077, Tenacity stat is 2162, and Skill Speed stat is 1802 with a 2.36 GCD.
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    Last edited by DRKoftheAzure; 11-06-2019 at 11:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    a nightmare rotation
    I am gonna be honest with you. This one of worst - if not THE worst - SINGLE TARGET rotation I've ever seen. You can't really call this a proper rotation, right?!

    Your gear stats don't mean ANYTHING, you are essentially a burden to your party with this... whatever you want to call it.
    Anyone with iLvl 450 and a proper rotation will out-dps you with ez. And that is no exaggeration.

    Your SINGLE target rotation contains multiple Aoe-skills. -> DPS loss
    You delay your 'standard' opener by at least 7s for 1 additional Burst strike in No Mercy, essentially missing half the raid buffs. -> DPS loss
    If my math is correct, you also delay your GCD - means you actually do NOTHING - for at least 1s to wait for No Mercy to become available, so that you have Solid Barrel in your burst window?! -> DPS loss
    (Single weave -> DPS loss)

    I hate to admit that even the OPs GNB openers are better than this.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEwah View Post
    I am gonna be honest with you. This one of worst - if not THE worst - SINGLE TARGET rotation I've ever seen. You can't really call this a proper rotation, right?!

    Your gear stats don't mean ANYTHING, you are essentially a burden to your party with this... whatever you want to call it.
    Anyone with iLvl 450 and a proper rotation will out-dps you with ez. And that is no exaggeration.

    Your SINGLE target rotation contains multiple Aoe-skills. -> DPS loss
    You delay your 'standard' opener by at least 7s for 1 additional Burst strike in No Mercy, essentially missing half the raid buffs. -> DPS loss
    If my math is correct, you also delay your GCD - means you actually do NOTHING - for at least 1s to wait for No Mercy to become available, so that you have Solid Barrel in your burst window?! -> DPS loss
    (Single weave -> DPS loss)

    I hate to admit that even the OPs GNB openers are better than this.
    Can you not call my quote "a nightmare rotation" please? And besides and helps me make sure that everything re-aligns WITH No Mercy window.


    After all you can actually try to use it in a raid with high up time fight if you'd like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Can you not call my quote "a nightmare rotation" please? And besides and helps me make sure that everything re-aligns WITH No Mercy window.


    After all you can actually try to use it in a raid with high up time fight if you'd like.
    I don't think anyone should try and use that considering it has aoe in single target which is just a big why, also none of the other rotations have trouble lineing up with no mercy, you just stock enough ammo for it and then use bloodfest as close to on cd as you can and then it lines up by itself, and ones again youre gonna miss all the raid buffs holding your burst so long. Nightmare rotation is accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Can you not call my quote "a nightmare rotation" please? And besides and helps me make sure that everything re-aligns WITH No Mercy window.


    After all you can actually try to use it in a raid with high up time fight if you'd like.
    Sorry, but I am not able to sweet talk this. Just because you think it works, doesn't make it actually right. There are plenty of threads that ask for guides, openers and rotation tips. And as I see you being active on the forum, I would like to advise you to visit those threads and change your rotation. ReiMakoto actually posted the most recent guide just a page ago. It even has single weave version.

    And no, I will NOT try to use it in a raid! I don't see any reason why I should. The points about DPS loss I mentioned in my previous post still stand. I don't even know what you mean with 'high uptime'. You strive for uptime, and adjust for downtime, but not the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    http://ffxivrotations.com/2fu8
    My gear is ilvl 460 full deepshadow gear with 1 augmented facet ring of fending.
    Is this rotation the reason why you didn't clear e1s or did you just have no dropluck?
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    I looked at the WAR opener and a part of me died, I think. That's a big no-no from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FurstBlumier View Post
    Is this rotation the reason why you didn't clear e1s or did you just have no dropluck?
    Party Finder tends to unreliable when trying to get a clear and/or farm party for anything that is Extreme or Savage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    http://ffxivrotations.com/2fu8

    This is the full rotation, single weave, that I use in general(A.K.A "why is the DNC and RDM not in melee range?") and if no one in the party has any kind of raid buff that increases damage dealt, with Bloodfest lining up with the 4th No Mercy after the 1st.

    My gear is ilvl 460 full deepshadow gear with 1 augmented facet ring of fending.

    Critical Hit stat is 2196, Determination stat is 2077, Tenacity stat is 2162, and Skill Speed stat is 1802 with a 2.36 GCD.
    @__@
    The OP's opener is bad. This one's worse; at least the OP's doesn't use AoE skills in single target.
    Your stats wont make any difference with this rotation. As much as you think it's a good rotation, I can't but direct to the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Party Finder tends to unreliable when trying to get a clear and/or farm party for anything that is Extreme or Savage...
    Not really no, and especially not when you consider that savage is going to be half a year old next month...
    With savage being as old as it is now, PFs are usually fairly successful, even for E4S and a lot of people do them for fun through the week because they have nothing better to do.
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    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

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