Why do you want an Auction House? (discussion)[dev1019]

[Rhomagus]

The only auction house I'm in favor of is an actual auction house:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ssion)-dev1019

[Joe_Cool]

I have been through a few threads about AH. And I have yet to see someone state a legitimate reason, aside from over paying for an item (sellers advantage), that CAN NOT be implemented in the Market Wards...
Ppl complain "An AH is global!"
No, not all MMO AH are global, nor is that a feature limited only to AH. Also in the future SE may connected the wards for viewing purposes. Example: you are "item searching" in UL and you can see on the list items from GRID (specified by city).
Ppl complain "too much undercutting!"
Um, AH doesn't solve that problem either!
Ppl complain "The Wards have no price history!"
That is correct... maybe in the future they will address that.
PPl complain & complain & complain & complain
And have yet to state a solid argument for AH that could not be implemented to some extent with the Market Ward.

Lets be honest. Have um-teen threads on AH can we be certain that SE will not implement a AH b/c that would undermine the Market Ward they are working so hard to establish?!

I like the Market Wards and think they should keep them. As far as the price history thing, I actually think its better NOT to have it. It keeps prices fresh which is a good thing to me. It also lowers how low the under-cutting can go for particular items since once all of the items are sold, it can go back to a good and fair price. Whereas with some AH's, like FFXI's AH, once the undercutting begins (and it WILL)....the price usually just gradually goes lower and lower, then stays low.

Also, imagine all of the new and fun things that can be done with Market Wards. Like being able to level up your retainer and having different quests that can be done with your retainer/market wards as well.

[TheCastle]

The only auction house I'm in favor of is an actual auction house:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ssion)-dev1019

I don't care what it is I just want it to be convenient. :P

[Chezen]

Why do "you" want an auction house?

I don't want an auction house.

Now that the search function has been implimented, I like it the way it is. I like running through the wards and searching for items. Sometimes when I find an item, I discover that seller has some other items for good prices. Going through the wards is peaceful, and I feel like I'm on a shopping trip. I like to look at some of the interesting names people name their retainers.

I also really like my retainers. I like that they model the things I have to sell. I like that they will stand there indefinitely until they sell everything or I call them elsewhere.



Two very valid points in this thread against the market wards:

1. They are an unnecessary drag on the system. That's true and hard to get around. The wards do crash a lot, and we're not even at full servers.

2. They don't interconnect the cities. Unless they made them into one connecting market in some kind of interdimensional pocket, which would probably cause it to crash more.

[Kaedan]

Ok, I have a question for the people who "have to have an AH".

It seems the big complaint (and only real complaint) is that "oh, I have to enter the market ward and pick up my item".

So I ask you: How is that any different than MMOs where you have to pick up your AH item from your mail box?

I'll go ahead and answer this myself. It isn't.

Other complaint is "MW aren't global."

For the global argument... well, neither are the AHs in FFXI. I can name a large number of MMOs where the AH is regional and not global.

[Winterclaw]

AH's are quicker and easier than what we have. The less time I spend trying to find something for a good price, the more time I can spend theoretically enjoying the game.

[Reika]

How can you possibly have a hard time trying to find anything in the current market wards?

Steps:
-Walk into the ward entrance
-select 'Item Search'
-Browse to what you are looking for
-If it aint listed... IT AINT THERE - and an AH will not make it magically be there if IT AINT THERE.
-If it is listed, click on the item and select yes.
-go to the ward where the item was cheapest, there will a STAR above the retainer with them item you seek.
-engage in friendly conversation with the retainer (optional) then purchase your item.
-exit wards.

Is that hard? do you need someone to hold your hand? Do you need a pet chimpanzee to lead you to the item you are looking for? I am pretty sure a chimpanzee can do it with no problem!

*Huff Huff huff....*

So people being lazy and unreasonably frustrated with the market wards because it is 'different' from every other MMO really ticks me off >.>

This is how i see people whining about todays market wards.

"O M F G ~ They are making me WALK to something?! I already WALKED to this marked ward entrance HOW DARE THEY! My feet hurt, I'm tired, I'm hungry, Its hot, I have to pee ~ moan ~ complain ~ whine ~ more complain"

[Kaedan]

How can you possibly have a hard time trying to find anything in the current market wards?

Steps:
-Walk into the ward entrance
-select 'Item Search'
-Browse to what you are looking for
-If it aint listed... IT AINT THERE - and an AH will not make it magically be there if IT AINT THERE.
-If it is listed, click on the item and select yes.
-go to the ward where the item was cheapest, there will a STAR above the retainer with them item you seek.
-engage in friendly conversation with the retainer (optional) then purchase your item.
-exit wards.

Is that hard? do you need someone to hold your hand? Do you need a pet chimpanzee to lead you to the item you are looking for? I am pretty sure a chimpanzee can do it with no problem!

*Huff Huff huff....*

So people being lazy and unreasonably frustrated with the market wards because it is 'different' from every other MMO really ticks me off >.>

This is how i see people whining about todays market wards.

"O M F G ~ They are making me WALK to something?! I already WALKED to this marked ward entrance HOW DARE THEY! My feet hurt, I'm tired, I'm hungry, Its hot, I have to pee ~ moan ~ complain ~ whine ~ more complain"

Exactly.

It's no different than MMOs that deliver your AH purchases to your mail box. But don't worry, they'll find something else to whine about.

[Ciden]

How can you possibly have a hard time trying to find anything in the current market wards?

Steps:
-Walk into the ward entrance
-select 'Item Search'
-Browse to what you are looking for
-If it aint listed... IT AINT THERE - and an AH will not make it magically be there if IT AINT THERE.
-If it is listed, click on the item and select yes.
-go to the ward where the item was cheapest, there will a STAR above the retainer with them item you seek.
-engage in friendly conversation with the retainer (optional) then purchase your item.
-exit wards.

Is that hard? do you need someone to hold your hand? Do you need a pet chimpanzee to lead you to the item you are looking for? I am pretty sure a chimpanzee can do it with no problem!

*Huff Huff huff....*

So people being lazy and unreasonably frustrated with the market wards because it is 'different' from every other MMO really ticks me off >.>

This is how i see people whining about todays market wards.

"O M F G ~ They are making me WALK to something?! I already WALKED to this marked ward entrance HOW DARE THEY! My feet hurt, I'm tired, I'm hungry, Its hot, I have to pee ~ moan ~ complain ~ whine ~ more complain"

This right up here is the only bitching I really see in the thread. People are just trying to express themselves and it's not like they're stupid and lazy because they're playing a game that's trying to drive a cart with a square wheel. I'll tell you that there was nothing constructive with anything you said and it's reading comments like these that might make someone with a completely viable idea not want to express themselves for fear of being a labeled a "whiner" or insert random epithet here. Well, duh! that's the point! Complaining about the issue is what people do. Complaining about the people complaining is what got SE in trouble in the first place and doesn't yield any worthy results.

[Randis]

You guys do realize that the features you like in the AH that are currently missing in the market wards could be added right?
I much prefer the look of all the NPC standing around with the goods than the simplistic AH lists.
Why some people insist on the AH so much if the market wards could be tweaked to fit the needs?