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    What do you think about waffles?



    I think they are great. Do you? What? Eased instanced raid requirements? Pish posh. Waffles man.
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    Last edited by Majidah; 03-27-2012 at 01:01 AM. Reason: Thread was done, people kept discussing what had already been cleared

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    what is bad about to enter a dungeon with 4 people? It don't say the dungeon get easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    what is bad about to enter a dungeon with 4 people? It don't say the dungeon get easier.
    Oh, is that the only thing it implies? If so I'm terribly sorry, I've misread it. But the way I took it requirements implied clearing Dzemael Darkhold. People have been complaining so much about this requirement I thought SE finally caved in.

    If that's not the case, and they won't touch the difficulty, then my bad. And thank god.

    Also this thread is going to be like 11 pages long isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    what is bad about to enter a dungeon with 4 people? It don't say the dungeon get easier.
    They didn't say DH would be easier either, and we all know how that turned out lol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    They didn't say DH would be easier either, and we all know how that turned out lol..
    It is not because you can now enter the dungeon with 4 people, but because it's still based on the pre 1.19 battle system
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    It is not because you can now enter the dungeon with 4 people, but because it's still based on the pre 1.19 battle system
    Did you forget that the mobs' levels in DH used to all be 60? Now they're all low 50s. Even the bosses themselves were nerfed to compensate for the relaxed party requirements.

    They gimped DH when they adjusted the entry requirements to make it completable by a party of 4. It wasn't just a byproduct of the transition from the 1.18 > 1.19 battle system overhaul.

    By comparison, the land (H)NMs were actually a bit more difficult in 1.19 than in 1.18, although still not anywhere near difficult. These NMs weren't nerfed at all. The only difference was the new battle system.

    So sorry, but I disagree. Honestly, I would be pleasantly surprised if they didn't mess with the difficulty of the new dungeons. But if history is any lesson, you can bet your ass they will.
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    "Eased party requirements for entry into the Aurum Vale and Cutter's Cry".
    Remember Darkhold being reduced to 4-8 players? is it easy with 4 players? No its not, this is the same deal.. they are going to make is possible for 4 people to get INTO them.. but they aren't MAKING it easier! Ok? Ok.. =)
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    I thought it meant I could go in with MORE than 8 people.

    It's sad to have 9 friends and one has to wait outside while the other 8 go in...
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    Eased party requirements
    It only means one thing OP, and it really does only mean 1 thing.. You CAN enter with 4 people, but the Content itself is still HARD as a 8-man party.
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