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[BloodRubyXII]

Barely the second day of Naadam's release and already there's no pops during off-peak hours.
(I got DC'd in the middle of the queue so at the moment it's actually ~3 hours in queue and counting)

I get the impression they want to design future maps around 72man only, and that is why we lost 24man.

Without really taking into account the mode simply isn't active enough to push that. Was sort of like when we lost 10man raiding in WoW and got told "20man for hardest difficulty or nothing". It spectacularly managed to kill off a fair portion of "niche" guilds in the process (including the best raiding guild - Paragon). I could only reliably raid at super late night times (like past 11pm GMT, the "meta" raiding hours were between 6 and 10:30pm for almost every guild). 10man was good because there were a boatload of really good 10man guilds that raided late nights. After the 20man change, maintaining a 20man roster of people who were good and genuinely wanted to raid those hours became impossible, and from around 15 late night guilds, they all merged in the longrun into like 3, then 2, then finally - none.

[Kaelia]

Yeah, I had a wait around 190m yesterday, but at least I'm getting them like two or three times a day... unlike zero a week before. Although, I'm sure this will only last a week or two. Then nothing again... the 72 person requirement has totally ruined PvP for me personally. I used to really enjoy it, but I don't think SE is going to do anything unless people make more of a stink about it. It really is sad though, I really used to enjoy pvp myself. At the very minimum they should add another event for PvP similar maybe to Garo, however, I won't hold my breath. I just hope they will see reason and return 24 player pvp... if you don't play at prime time then screw you I guess? Sigh...

[Kaelia]

I guess the dream of going back to 24 man games is dead? Main reason I'm not playing FFXIV anymore for more than a few minutes at a time, mainly just to talk to friends now. PvP was my favorite end-game activity and now that I can't play it at all more or less because I don't play during prime time hours... I'm pretty much just using the game to talk to old friends and maybe go on an occasional hunt train or two. I'd come back to playing full time in an instant if they restored 24 player pvp and probably would start doing other things in game too... like raids etc... I just am so bummed by this, I don't feel like playing much anymore. Oh well... I don't think anyone even cares anymore. I guess PvP is really only a prime time only event now. You can't even find a game for a 4v4 feast game, that's pretty sad. Oh well... time to play Diablo 3

And I've finished leveling all the jobs to 80, and several crafters/gatherers too... so nothing else to do really.

[BloodRubyXII]

I guess the dream of going back to 24 man games is dead?

I wouldn't call it dead, I think there's always a chance we'll get it back.

But anytime soon? Always a question. Also Feast queues aren't great atm, but there's definitely no way you "can't" find a game, my main's got 452~ as it is.