8v8v8

[Kaelia]

Come on SE, this has to be changed ASAP. The 72 only FL is totally killing PvP for anyone that can't play at prime time. Since the patch my average wait time for a morning match is around 350 minutes or more because basically there aren't any matches until 11am at roulette time. I know I have bitched about this quite a bit, however, I believe that people need to complain as much as humanly possible in order to get SE to rethink this incredibly thoughtless decision, which I cannot fathom in anyway. There appears to be no logic behind this change and it does nothing but disrupt the player community. If it MUST be 72 player PvP for god knows what reason then you need to look into population issues on certain data centers. I play on Crystal and basically you CANNOT get a pvp group prior to roulette time, however, prior to the 5.1 patch, it used to take me about 10 - 20 minutes to get an 8v8v8 match even at the darkest depths of the morning. To my fellow players that cannot tolerate this unbelievable change, please keep yelling at the top of your lungs until SE hears us. This can't keep going like this, or literally, I am going to seriously consider quitting the game that I have played non-stop for the past 3 years. I wasn't even into PvP until the Garo event was about to end and once I got a taste of it, I couldn't stop. I played DAoC back in the day when it first came out in 2001 and I was totally addicted to the RvR pvp system in that game and every since, I have been trying to replicate that feeling that RvR gave you. This game came close, and honestly, I know people think it is lacking in many ways (because it is), however, it has enormous potential I believe and could someday, with some effort by SE, be a serious contender to the best PvP titles available today. The long and the short of it is... bring back 8v8v8 combat and invest some serious effort into the PvP system of this game. I can't wait forever so, I hope they do it soon.

[Fannah]

Maybe SE thinks those 24 people still have Feast to PvP to farm Wolves marks points (24people does 3 Feast games at the same time), but it's not the same gameplay pleasure, in the end, and we cannot know if people are queuing for one or another, and we can't communicate to all those ones to switch to Feast.

In other words, we should be able to queue for Frontline and Feast at the same time if they really want to get rid of the 24 players Frontline (at least the Feast training, as I believe people want in ranking mode only people really here for ranking Feast).

[Corbeau]

Of all the pvp modes, I liked 8v8v8 the best. Used to queue during off hours specifically in hopes of getting it.

Haven't played much pvp since 5.1.

[Doozer]

So you play at non-peak hours and complain that no one is playing. Okie dokie.

[MrMagic]

So you play at non-peak hours and complain that no one is playing. Okie dokie.

and you want current content that is completely inaccessible outside of peak times? I get that people are playing other newly released content but at least I could finish the frontline roulette at any time of the day before the change.

[Doozer]

and you want current content that is completely inaccessible outside of peak times? I get that people are playing other newly released content but at least I could finish the frontline roulette at any time of the day before the change.

You can make up fake arguments to argue against, but everyone can literally see I never said "I want current content that is completely inaccessible outside of peak times". Current content is often inaccessible outside of peak times, and not current content is sometimes rather quick to get into outside of peak times. The main point is, you can't expect to get in quickly if you're playing at like 9am. Depending on time zones, people are either asleep, getting ready for work/school, or at work/school. Most people don't play MMOs in the morning.

[Fannah]

Doozer, they said they could play in 24 player mode in the morning, now they can't. That's what they complain about, that's all.
They had something, now they don't anymore. It's easy to understand why they complain.

[AriesMouse]

So you play at non-peak hours and complain that no one is playing. Okie dokie.

Pretty sure the complaint is that before there was a party size for Frontlines that worked for low-pop hours, that was removed, so now at those low-pop hours, queues for frontlines never pop. They tried to fix something that wasn't broken, and broke it. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to play at peak hours, so now the people that are limited to off hour game time have little to no access to pvp content. It's just a very bad move on SE's part.

[Kaelia]

So you play at non-peak hours and complain that no one is playing. Okie dokie.

I never had problems getting a group before 5.1? Additionally... yes... everyone can play at prime time. Nobody has anything to do from 8pm - 12am. You are 100% right. If you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic. I know crappy players like 72 person though, the zerg really helps you leech kills. Yeah so, 8v8v8 actually requires some skill... that's why SE hates it. SE has always wanted to make hardcore player's lives as hard as possible. No room for you in THIS game, sorry. Go play something else I guess?

Edit: Sorry for my saltiness, but these kind of people really get on my nerves because it doesn't affect them so they could care less.

[BloodRubyXII]

You can make up fake arguments to argue against, but everyone can literally see I never said "I want current content that is completely inaccessible outside of peak times". Current content is often inaccessible outside of peak times, and not current content is sometimes rather quick to get into outside of peak times. The main point is, you can't expect to get in quickly if you're playing at like 9am. Depending on time zones, people are either asleep, getting ready for work/school, or at work/school. Most people don't play MMOs in the morning.

This is typical word twisting and misconstruing what the OP is complaining about. 24man pops helped people who play in quieter hours of the day still have a chance to PvP. They no longer have this option. I think being a bit annoyed about it is perfectly valid.