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  1. #1
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It's clearly insinuating that I've been too stupid to do anything other than guess at an event that is obviously designed to not be guesswork, unlike Typhon. I can read between the lines, even if you supposedly can't.
    And sometimes "reading between the lines" is seeing things that aren't there, and taking offence that wasn't intended.

    Yes the first line could be taken badly. But they've taken the time to write out detailed instructions in an attempt to help you understand it, and for me that majority of the post is a much clearer indication of their intent - especially if everyone else is reading it that way and not seeing it as rude.

    Maybe they phrased it badly, maybe they understood your issue wrongly, but they were trying to help.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    I don't enjoy it (yet) because I always struggled with the Ivalice mechanics in the first place. Also had bad luck on first try standing too close to the multi-cut bamboo, seemed a bit cruel.

    However, I also like the idea of this, as essentially training for new players to be exposed to this mechanic early on, where they may safely learn it and be able to apply it to future instances when they eventually encounter it.

    Which... hell, that'd actually be kinda a cool usage of GATEs, to transition some of them over to pre-training for difficult/unusual mechanics that players will encounter in the future. They could/should honestly try to implement some of that into overworld FATEs as well. A way to practice a mechanic solo, so you're not entirely surprised or unprepared for it in group content.
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    Jubii Io
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    I literally failed on the first slice. I look forward to beating it one day.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    The fact that you're sitting here arguing with people and acting butt-hurt over these perceived slights, instead of digesting the extremely detailed and helpful information provided to you, make it pretty clear that you prefer blaming others for your own shortcomings over trying to improve yourself. Tbh it might even be part of the reason you're struggling with this GATE so much. Instead of feeling upset and retreating into a shell of self-pity, how about taking a look at the information the game (and the first person who replied to you) provides you and figuring out how to do better next time instead?
    I'm not blaming anyone else for my incapability to do something. Where was I doing that? Pretty sure you're making that part up, bub.

    I'm blaming them for acting high and mighty just because, god forbid, someone doesn't like what they like and has trouble doing something that apparently comes naturally to them.

    Also it's ironic that you're trying to sit on a high horse about people taking a "snooty" or "pretentious" tone, as well as bringing out the "adage of being able to catch more flies with honey rather than vinegar". Take a look in the mirror bruh.
    Yeah, believe it or not, when people get attacked in an unwarranted way, they tend to want to defend themselves. What a concept, right?

    Regardless of whatever you seem to think, nothing in my first post warranted the kind of response I got.

    And sometimes "reading between the lines" is seeing things that aren't there, and taking offence that wasn't intended.
    "Oh maybe you would fail less if you just paid more attention next time HURR HURR "

    It was intended. Sorry that you can't see that yourself.

    But they've taken the time to write out detailed instructions in an attempt to help you understand it,
    The thing is, again, it was already undermined by the very first thing that they wrote.

    It's like being given a page long apology that begins with the words "I'm sorry that you felt offended." Are you particularly invested in, or at least interested in seeing the rest of the "apology" after reading that? I wouldn't be.

    Moreover that, I didn't ask for instructions or advice in the first place. The topic asked "what does everyone think of this GATE", and I gave my opinion. Nowhere did it say that only people who love this GATE were allowed to respond.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 11-05-2019 at 01:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    The thing is, again, it was already undermined by the very first thing that they wrote.

    It's like being given a page long apology that begins with the words "I'm sorry that you felt offended." Are you particularly invested in, or at least interested in seeing the rest of the "apology" after reading that? I wouldn't be.
    If the rest of the apology seemed genuine? Quite possibly.

    People say things wrong. I know I do, and thus prefer to give others the benefit of the doubt (and hope they will do the same for me). I'd rather incorrectly assume someone is being nice, than incorrectly assume they're being rude.
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    Machka Gikkingen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It's like being given a page long apology that begins with the words "I'm sorry that you felt offended." Are you particularly invested in, or at least interested in seeing the rest of the "apology" after reading that? I wouldn't be.
    See, right there is what I was talking about. You say that as if your response to their reply is their fault and not your own responsibility. If you're the type to shut down/shut things out after something you don't like happens, that's your own problem and not anyone else's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post

    Yeah, believe it or not, when people get attacked in an unwarranted way, they tend to want to defend themselves. What a concept, right?

    Regardless of whatever you seem to think, nothing in my first post warranted the kind of response I got.
    And what did you get? A helpful reply.
    If you wanna get hung up over the perceived slight, or "attack" as you put it, it's no skin off anyone's back but your own. You're the one acting high and mighty in this thread, whether you realize it or not.
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    White Mage Lv 80
    The slice is so hard. At least for me. I usually fail at three sticks. I guess my reactions and spatial thinking are not good enough. I just don't have enough time to look and analyse all three sticks. Two is fine. But three goes like this: look at 1 - look at 2 - time's up, I'm still trying to position myself to not be hit by 1 or 2, and then 3 hits me.

    I have tried this GATE 10-15 times, but was able to progress to the final round only twice.
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    Last edited by WonderCake; 11-17-2019 at 06:31 AM.

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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    The gate is too difficult. Wich would not be a problem when it would not block other, easier gates from spawning. And it also pushed another gate completely out of the game. It feels like we lost something rather than gained. Especially when The Slice is Right and Any Way the Wind Blows spawns back to back and you can't win anything anymore. And the other gates are blocked behind the duty finder, except Cliffhanger wich maybe spawns twice a day or so...

    I don't like the direction the Gold Saucer is going. We did not got a new big game since Verminion in early Heavensward and the situation with the gates gets worse and worse...
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    Jenna Starsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I don't like the direction the Gold Saucer is going. We did not got a new big game since Verminion in early Heavensward and the situation with the gates gets worse and worse...
    Mahjong is relatively recent. Most people forgot it even exists, but honestly, how many people really play LoV either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    Mahjong is relatively recent. Most people forgot it even exists, but honestly, how many people really play LoV either?
    I recently discovered LoV... as a way to get something like 27,000 zero-effort MGP a week from the "play 1/3/5 games" challenge log, by joining the first non-tutorial level and leaving it to time out while I do other things.

    Now if only there was something I wanted to spend it on...

    *stares longingly at the empty spot where the Makai vendor was standing*
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