Now before you overreact

[Iscah]

[High House bustle]

Isn't this just fancy robes?

I agree it doesn't look bad, but I wouldn't call it a robe - the details are different, and it's definitely a woman's dress from a period where men didn't wear long skirts like that.

[Crushnight]

Do you really think the desire to remove genderlocked items is even remotely comparable to the desire for enhanced character customisation? I'll go a step further: which of those two would players actually make use of in a way that enhances the game's longevity and profitability?

Not even close but if it were just the genderlocked clothes vs stubble eh now we are getting close due to it most likely only affecting male characters, if SE were to give facial fuzz to females cool but that would be even more niche than the genderlocked clothes, if they decided to not give them what do female characters get in CC as compensation?

I think that is the issue the devs are trying to work out, they now know how much people want that stubble from promo but what do females get in return the same stubble or something else? and what if male characters want that extra thing too?

Removing the genderlock from these clothes is far easier because it can benefit every character even if only a small number of players would actually use them.

Oh, it's not Viera or Hrothgar I'm calling the waste of resources. One has to wonder if they're doing this as a gesture to attenuate some of the (undeserved) PR they got over not adding mViera or fHrothgar, to the effect that they were "homophobic" or "sexist".

No i don't find them a waste either just unfinished, the lack of both genders, the lack of hairstyles and headgear are very apparent which is a shame both are good to look at but when you scratch the surface for customizing it gets ugly very fast.

No clue if it a response to that or not but giving that they are in the code of 5.1 they would've been in their work log around 4.3-4.4 given that they seemingly work a 1yr-1yr and a half in advance(Fran was decided thus Viera was decided around 4.1) so long before we saw that majestic stubble for the 1st time.

[wereotter]

I think that is the issue the devs are trying to work out, they now know how much people want that stubble from promo but what do females get in return the same stubble or something else? and what if male characters want that extra thing too?

Every female toon already gets more customization than males since every female toon has a breast slider. Facial hair could be seen as the counterpart to that character customization option.

[Rokke]

itt: people assume if X didn't happen Y would have assuredly happened instead.

Unisexing gear just needs 3 resizes to make female gear fit males and 1 resize for male gear to fit females. No wheels need reinventing. Think of this in the same vein as the Hroth & Viera getting glasses/circlets- small adjustment that can be done in "free" time. I want more hairstyles for my Viera (especially the ones I paid $ for) but this is apples & oranges.

Every female toon already gets more customization than males since every female toon has a breast slider. Facial hair could be seen as the counterpart to that character customization option.

Based on how every other aspect of the creator's customization seems to be mirrored somehow in every race, males would then get an extra slider for any further customization tabs.

[wereotter]

Based on how every other aspect of the creator's customization seems to be mirrored somehow in every race, males would then get an extra slider for any further customization tabs.

Facial hair, though, likely wouldn't be a slider or even a separate option.

Races that already can have beards and stubble just have it as a facial option in the same category as adding or removing scars from the face. I was just throwing out there that the option added to have facial hair for men doesn't automatically mean another customization option needs to be added for women, especially when women already have additional character customization options.