Please make copied factory outfit coffer party based, and unique loot

[pandabearcat]

The current system does not promote any sort of ability to farm for the raid, and allows anyone to win multiple for god knows what reason (one for every color of the rainbow?).

It also means that since everyone rolls on 3 of them, conceivably someone might inadvertently win two as well, for no reason.

If we move the outfit coffer to a per party status, and unique loot, then you can at the very least make farming parties.

The current system is an RNG nightmare. I have friends with 2 coffers from 2 runs, and personally have run 8 times with no drops.

[Taranok]

More importantly, the issue that this RNG mechanic suffers from is an "open-ended grind." To put it another way, it's very similar to raid gear before ShB and especially before HW, where you can grind and grind and grind a billion times and potentially never get lucky enough, or you can be like my friend who won it the first time, opened it, and then won it a second time even though they literally cannot use it after that first win.

This should have been a reward for beating the copied factory, either from the quest itself or from achievements upon completion. The current system actually is frustrating and doesn't make the copied factory more fun, but spoils its fun instead if you really want the outfit. It's painfully obvious the devs want the player to have relatively easy access to this item, but it's just not easy to access, which is a problem.

As a blow-off valve, it can be made such that you can buy it with tomestones or the copied coins or just make it a unique reward given to people, because the current system, flat out, is not fun.

[Rst001]

The new looting system is stupid, it only allows pure RNG to let people to loot. I've done 30+ runs to try to get the stupid chest and I've failed badly all the time, while I've seen players already using 2B glam in their gear, looting again the chests. This is a bad joke.

I'm just losing all the hype about this raid thanks to the nefarious RNG system of this game.

[Avera]

As someone who literally got out of a fight where everyone bragged about how many chests they've gotten...I feel really burnt out of Copied Factory, yet I keep going because I really want this glamour.

I'm tired of trying to roll when some guy who's claimed it 5+ times will win it and just spoil the hope.

It really should be either a reward for doing the Raid, or party based so 3/8 people per party can get the glamour. Even then though, it doesn't remove double rollers who...honestly irk me.

[Sapphiro]

Same here, I consider myself fan of Nier, played both Nier and Drakengard, got few friends into Nier Automata and bought myself two copies, just to see difference between PC and PS4 controls, so when i heard Nier themed raid and you can even get 2B outfit, i was exctatic.
Storyline itself looks very iteresting so far, and raid itself is awesome, with all the bosses. Im really looking forward to next phase.
Yet this garbage loot system really ruined otherwise great experience. I just had some random BLM who did literally nothing entire raid, just stood on place in first boss arena and got himself kicked, then went AFK (sadly we didnt manage to kick him) and returned only after last boss was killed, rolled Need and won 2 costumes. Than i rescrolled chat and realized, that some othere dude who did the raid in 2B costume also rolled Need for all of them. Meanwhile in my 10+ runs my highest roll was 71 and i consider lucky when i get most rolls double digits.

[Greyab]

I know what you mean, 15 runs so far with no loot, the rng just seems to hate me, whilst some people seem to have all the luck. I love the raid but the frustration of getting any loot (and that includes loot from the bosses as what I want doesn't seem to drop and when it does I lose that roll as well :P) is putting a dampener on the whole thing. As it stands I'm hoping that as times passes the people who already have the loot will stop rolling on it, but for time being as people know how much it is wanted they will roll on it, some to troll, some to brag and other because they just didn't notice and clicked the button out of habit.

Looking at other raids though whilst they also only have 1 single box for the final boss in addition to the alliance loot box's the special loot that is in those is set up so you can't claim something you already have, if there was some way to do that in Copied it would help I think.

[RoseyDevlin]

I\\'m one of the lucky ones that got it at first try as healer and so did my friend. I find it odd you can still put need on it and that one should get fixed, one costume box in every alliance party loot should be better. Right now I just farm the songs/minions after I got my armor piece while helping friends with faster que.

[Rst001]

Here we go again.

After 60+ runs, I'm definitely done with this raid, still no songs, cards, 2B chest, but hey, I already looted the Pod 054 with an awesome roll of 54. YEAH, FIFTY FOUR.

I've seen again people looting more than one chest in the same raid, people literally SLEEPING in the floor rolling higher rolls than me, and even worse, people forcing kills to other players to force them to leave so their friends can get the loot, this is so wonderful.

I was so hyped at the time NieR:Automata raid was announced but just now, that hype died for me. I'm just gonna do it for the weekly reward and I'm not gonna continue trying to farm it anymore, it's again a waste of time and effort to reward others.

I'm losing my time, my energies, and my mood in this game and, at this rate I'll quit the game.

Thank you SE for designing the WORST looting system I've ever seen in an MMORPG, congratulations.

[FirstnameLastname]

If you're going to be one of those "I swear I'll quit over this" flakeys you rather should right now. If a glamour can make you this angry and frustrated, online games as a whole might not be your best bet.

Try any other online game and I guarantee you, you'll come back praising this one to no end. Getting loot in this game is so incredibly easier than in any other. Period.

[Stepjam]

Making it a party drop instead of alliance drop wouldn't be bad. Dunno how they'd make it unique though outside of making it calamity salvager connected.