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  1. #171
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Kudos on the necro, I missed this one the first time around! But yes, I am still very much on the team of unlocking all gear to glamour onto any job. XI lets you do this, and it's actually quite fun and brings a huge amount of variety to appearances. .

    Now in XI, in order to be able to glamour a specific item, you do have to be able to equip the gear normally. So for example, if you want to use a level 90 PLD body, you have to actually have PLD leveled up to 90 as well, but after that the piece of gear is free to be glamoured onto anything. You can even use high level gear (e.g. that level 90 body piece) and use it on a glamour set for a brand new level-1 job you just started. XIV doesn't let you use a higher level glam on a lower level item which is poo.

    It's a really great incentive to spend more time in game trying to collect pieces of gear you don't already have, and also a good incentive to level up jobs in the first place so that you can use all the various pieces of gear you run across. Glamour is pretty big in this game, and I think that could breathe a bit of life into things.
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  2. #172
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    Frosthaven's Avatar
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    Frosthaven Everflight
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    Adamantoise
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    ... but the fact we do have them just means we've got to work with them and find stuff that works. Not having access to everything isn't the same thing as not having a variety of options.
    Absolutely! It just means I won't bother with it at all. It isn't a big enough priority for me to fiddle through (and construct) job-specific glams. No harm no foul. Unlocked is the only window into caring about it for me, and if it doesn't happen then I've lost nothing and gained nothing. I'll just continue with my boring all-class glam and be fine.
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    Last edited by Frosthaven; 08-03-2020 at 03:48 AM.

  3. #173
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    Terin's Avatar
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    Jared Kane
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    The only thing I want to say, is I still think JOB-SPECIFIC armor (AF armor, namely) should remain Job-specific.

    As far as "general armor-class" (ie. armor that multiple jobs can equip), I'm personally more flexible there.

    But I definitely think Job Armor should be maintained as a really distinctive thing for the game.
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  4. #174
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    We all know the real reason why they won't do this.

    People would spend less money on special glams from the mogstation that apply to all jobs.
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  5. #175
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    The only thing I want to say, is I still think JOB-SPECIFIC armor (AF armor, namely) should remain Job-specific.

    As far as "general armor-class" (ie. armor that multiple jobs can equip), I'm personally more flexible there.

    But I definitely think Job Armor should be maintained as a really distinctive thing for the game.
    Would have added on exception to those though, which is the crafter/gatherer armours. Plenty of them would look absolutely lovely on multiple combat jobs.
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  6. #176
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    StriderShinryu's Avatar
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    The only thing I want to say, is I still think JOB-SPECIFIC armor (AF armor, namely) should remain Job-specific.

    As far as "general armor-class" (ie. armor that multiple jobs can equip), I'm personally more flexible there.

    But I definitely think Job Armor should be maintained as a really distinctive thing for the game.
    Yeah, that's my take as well. I don't hate there being certain special armour specific to certain jobs but when you're talking anything general, it just feels silly

    While I get the original concept they were going for it's long stopped making any real sense. We can freely run around as tanks wearing what appears as a wedding dress with carbuncle slippers and a giant chocobo head. There's absolutely no reason why a white mage can't be wearing the appearance of plate armour.
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  7. #177
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    Arturia Crossroads
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I wanna dig up this old thread with the announcement of sage, which looks fantastic but i dont want to get it saddled with the usual healer glams. I desperately want the skintight tech pvp sets for sage but those only go to dps and tanks. Healers and casters have to get ponchos because, reasons? The whole idea of restrictions is meaningless when you can craft classes sky pirate of blank gear in ishgurd now
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  8. #178
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurturia View Post
    I wanna dig up this old thread with the announcement of sage, which looks fantastic but i dont want to get it saddled with the usual healer glams. I desperately want the skintight tech pvp sets for sage but those only go to dps and tanks. Healers and casters have to get ponchos because, reasons? The whole idea of restrictions is meaningless when you can craft classes sky pirate of blank gear in ishgurd now
    If they're continueing down the road they seem to be taking with Sage, current healer gear seems extremely lackluster for them. Same problem physical ranged and Dancer currently has: you have some gear that fits nicely for the Bard/ Ranger class fantasy, some that's bit more techy or cowboy-like for the Machinists... and then there's Dancer which tends to look weird in aiming gear.
    Healing gear is almost 100% white robes. Some shorter, most of them longer, usually very dress-like with pants being either bloomers or short skirts that would fit the belt slot better than the leg slot for females, so replacing the chest piece with something doesn't cut it either.
    It's almost as if healers can be nothing but magic-based sparkly folks in white dresses.
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  9. #179
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    Hank_Hotspur's Avatar
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    Hank Hotspur
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I believe that AF gear should be able to glam within its role after unlocking it. Its bad enough I have to waste glamour plates on sets only a few jobs can uses (3 for casters, 2 for striking, etc.), but its even more infuriating to waste it on something only 1 can use. If you got a DRK to level cap, you're a master DRK, you should be able to keep that glam on your fending gear even if you switch to WAR/PLD/GNB (or any other theoretical example).
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  10. #180
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    GeminiReed's Avatar
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    Alys Isshu
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    The only thing I want to say, is I still think JOB-SPECIFIC armor (AF armor, namely) should remain Job-specific.
    I'd have little objection if the glamour system wasn't such a hot mess. But since it is AF armor is mostly useless. Silly me thought DRG was "safe" and invested in one of its dyeable AF variants. Guessing NIN will get screwed in 7.0.
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