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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    Funny because literally a new thread just went up requesting that exact thing, ha ha
    That's some grade A irony right there; assuming it isn't related to this thread, anyway...
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    Probably coincidental.

    Even before that post appeared, I was going to say people do ask for it from time to time.

    (And they presumably haven't considered the "immersive" fashion disasters that will ensue when you get anything but a complete set of gear.)
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    Last edited by Iscah; 01-20-2020 at 06:28 AM.

  3. #153
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    Drast Vyrkasch
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    At the cost of possibly raising the blood pressure levels of people who disagree with me...

    I think it's totally fine to have class/job based gear glamouring restrictions. I won't go into details as to why, because frankly those don't matter a bit. I'm just voicing my personal opinion.

    Woosh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No reward is worth suffering through content you feel is bad. The worst thing the playerbase can do to itself is force-complete the content it hates. It leaves the false impression that despite complaints, players are generally satisfied with the content and it's okay to make more like it. If players stop working on the content even with rewards incomplete (like Pagos when it first came out), it will send a clear sign that changes need to be made.

  4. #154
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Making all gear applicable to everyone would vastly reduce the value of rewards, as well as the value of playing a job, because your looks would be less prestigious.
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  5. #155
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    Maribelle Morunaude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Making all gear applicable to everyone would vastly reduce the value of rewards, as well as the value of playing a job, because your looks would be less prestigious.
    I'm... a little confused as to what this even means. Reduce the value of rewards? Reduce it HOW? You would still need to get the gear to wear it. Plus, there's no inherent 'prestige' to playing a certain job since anyone else playing the game right now could just swap over and play that same job if they felt like it. In fact, if they have the black mage AF4 in order to glamour it, that means inherently that they have black mage at 80 in order to get it in the first place, so ? ????
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  6. #156
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    Fairymore Fairymore
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    I want to support removing job restrictions from armor.

    To those who have been asking this for a while now, keep asking and do not give up. This restriction is purely a developer preference - it has nothing to do with in-game logic, rewards, class identity, silhouettes, or whatever other reason. Developer's minds can change on this subject and they do if enough fans get behind this idea. World of Warcraft developers rejected Transmogrification until they did not. SWTOR developers rejected their current cosmetic system until they did not. And now that i think about it, once the change does happen there is never an explanation about why the developers held on so firmly to their old convictions. The fans that sided with the developer's stubbornness also never bring up the topic again after the fact, why they supported such hollow defenses, but of course why would it come up since everyone is so busy finally being able to use their favorite armor pieces on their favorite characters. So keep championing this idea forward!

    There are plenty LNC/DRG pieces I am looking to use on other classes.
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  7. #157
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    Yes please, I would like to wear the Republican Signifier Horns on White Mage. I quit healing and mained Red Mage when that was released because I couldn't wear it on White Mage.
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  8. #158
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    Funny because literally a new thread just went up requesting that exact thing, ha ha
    Wouldn't having both features be the best thing? Then people can glamour how they like, and people who don't want to see the chaos don't have to.
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  9. #159
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    Kaleth Orebiter
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I think the real reason is the need vs greed loot restriction. We can glamour everything we can wear, so if every job can glamour everything, then every job can wear everything, and then every job can need on everything. And since we want certain jobs to be able to need on loots, then there is restriction in place for actuals gears (not glamour).

    That's why glamour/joke gear doesn't matter, including those worn by npcs.
    Lifting the glamour restriction wouldn't have any effect on what you can need or not: the real piece of gear would still have the class/job restriction and that's what determines if you can cast a need on something
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    Last edited by Ardox; 01-21-2020 at 10:50 AM. Reason: wrong term

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    Lifting the glamour restriction wouldn't have any effect on what you can need or not: the real piece of gear would still have the class/job restriction and that's what determines if you can cast a need on something
    That depends how the restriction is put in place. If it's tied to what you can wear, then removing one restriction might mean removing the other as well, but I could be wrong on that.

    Regardless, even if it doesn't work that way, it should. Glamour is as much a valid need, especially when gears get regularly replaced. Not being able to need on a gear that you can use (as a glamour) with your current job just sounds wrong.
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