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    Auto Attack =/= lazy. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that 11111111111114enter....1111111111111114enter....1111111 is not healthy for any keyboard. It's not that I'm lazy, it's that continually pressing the same exact key, multiple times in rapid succession is 1) Unhealthy for the board 2) Extremely inefficient and 3) Completely unnecessary

    Bottom line, there is nothing about not wanting to break my keyboard that makes me lazy. Auto attack is coming. You can either stay and play or jump ship like everyone else.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Auto Attack =/= lazy. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that 11111111111114enter....1111111111111114enter....1111111 is not healthy for any keyboard. It's not that I'm lazy, it's that continually pressing the same exact key, multiple times in rapid succession is 1) Unhealthy for the board 2) Extremely inefficient and 3) Completely unnecessary

    Bottom line, there is nothing about not wanting to break my keyboard that makes me lazy. Auto attack is coming. You can either stay and play or jump ship like everyone else.

    If your gamplay is 11111111 you are lazy. There's no other reason to spam a normal attack.

    Ninja EDIT: forgot to quote -.-'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    If your gamplay is 11111111 you are lazy. There's no other reason to spam a normal attack.

    Ninja EDIT: forgot to quote -.-'
    Wrong. Archer as well as the 2 mages get no use out of other attacks that aren't spells/tp moves in most party situations, outside of BRs. Also, spamming 1 is the equivalent of an autoattack, just less efficient.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Wrong. Archer as well as the 2 mages get no use out of other attacks that aren't spells/tp moves in most party situations, outside of BRs. Also, spamming 1 is the equivalent of an autoattack, just less efficient.
    The amount of fail in this post is staggering. Only the last sentence is even remotely true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The amount of fail in this post is staggering. Only the last sentence is even remotely true.
    So true, actually as Archer you have to use almost no normal attacks at all in order to be effective, Multishot and Trifurcate FTW.
    And if you spam normal attacks as a mage you clearely fail, you don't even have to care for the MP now...
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    I'd like to see a toggle, with Auto-Attack being the less useful so that you can still fight while chatting (just not do as much damage), then get back to attacking manually. I think this would be the best way to resolve this argument, and it benefits both sides.
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    I really don't spam the normal attack. I like using skills, so I really don't need auto-attack.
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    They can't make it toggle-able as it was said that auto-attack is what makes the new system possible. It does not work without auto-attack.

    Hello adventurers of FFXIV! This is battle lead Akihiko Matsui.

    I would like to take this moment to explain the current plans we have in place.

    First off, once the future battle balance and battle system adjustments take place, we feel that the implementation of auto-attack is quite necessary. Please embrace this as just one of the many necessary revamps needed to create more interesting and strategy rich battles as well as solve the tediousness of having to spam a button.

    With this said, I do not feel that the implementation of auto-attack will solve everything. In other threads there have been many topics coming up about what is going to happen to the stamina gauge and claim system, how classes should have unique qualities and stats, what’s going to happen with monsters, raid dungeons, equipment, etc. I have looked over all of the great number of elements and at the current stage feel that without implementing auto-attack that the future battle system would be impossible.

    Compared to the FFXI auto-attack system, we are thinking about making the auto-attack system for FFXIV have a shorter attack delay. (This has been a heated debate on the forum, and having been lead of FFXI please forgive me for bringing it up as a point of comparison. There is no "better" or "worse" system.)

    The objective here is not to lower the battle difficulty. The main objective here, when thinking about battles rich in strategy, pace, and exhilaration, is instead of having to time regular attacks, we will be preparing situations that require proper timing of abilities, magic, and weapon skills. Following this, weaker enemies are a different story, but we will make sure it’s balanced so you can’t win a fight just by using auto-attack.

    Due to the fact we still have a lot of elements that need to be tested and looked into, it is difficult for me to tell you any more info in great detail, but if you give me some time I will do my best to share the information with you. Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    They can't make it toggle-able as it was said that auto-attack is what makes the new system possible. It does not work without auto-attack.
    Although you speak the truth, and that whatever ideas we come up with now are already invalid..

    This thread was asking how we wanted it, personally.

    To be honest, I've noticed how people disregard the OP, which is the most important post to read in any thread.
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    Well I already answered why I want it, I was just clearing up the issue of people bringing up toggle.
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