Why do you want auto-attack? (discussion)[dev1022]

[Evovenom]

I didn't want it. IMO, it's just an excuse for people to not do their jobs. However, Yoshi has said it will be necessary for the new battle system they are implementing, so I'm willing to trust him on that one. We'll see once the update comes.

So spaming enter over and over again somehow makes you better or experience player, that's halarious and insane guy.

You know auto attack means your character meles by itself, not that it does abilities by itself too. You'll still be left with lots of spaming and job abilities.

pressing enter 10 times, is better then pressing it once? your logic is beyond dumb, if that's the case having XIV setup for you guys solo friendly and easy will make you lazy, giving you guys too much exp and easy money will make you lazy, giving you fast updates will make you lazy, giving you extra inventory will make you lazy, balancing exp will make you lazy, everything makes you lazy one day or other.

just
like
how
americans
hate
working
for
lower then
8 dollars
an
hour
doesn't that make you lazy? slap yourself.

[Dreamer]

Public Service Announcement: Attack spam is NOT a valid argument for auto-attack. If you're spamming the same ability over and over and over like that, it means that you simply fail with this battle system; it doesn't mean anything in terms of the current system.

This argument keeps getting thrown around despite the fact that it has zero merit. Learn to add some strategy to how you play and your attack spam will stop.

[Evovenom]

Public Service Announcement: Attack spam is NOT a valid argument for auto-attack. If you're spamming the same ability over and over and over like that, it means that you simply fail with this battle system; it doesn't mean anything in terms of the current system.

This argument keeps getting thrown around despite the fact that it has zero merit. Learn to add some strategy to how you play and your attack spam will stop.

Exactly the reason many players hate this battle system, you suit it, instead of it. What a way of stating what others who want auto attack, right.

[Renshi]

Heya!

Anyway, as I have read, they are going to implement this in order that you won't be able to finish a fight only with auto-attack, so...

I don't know a good reason to have auto-attack, as what I do most is using skills.
It's my personal thought anyway, people are different from each other =D

See ya!

[AlexiaKidd]

I want auto attack as personally I didn't have a problem with the battle system in FFXI. I was always kept very busy in-spite of it's auto attack. However the one great thing it will allow is time to socialise with my party, something which I think is really lacking in FFXIV. I can go out in a party atm and we will constantly either fighting or running to the next fight. With the current system hardly anyone will say a thing for hours and thats just sad. If you stop to reply you aren't contributing to the party and if you try to send a message while running to the next mob you will probably get stuck on some awkward terrain. I hate that I can't reply to a message without watching my DPS drop to 0.

There will always be boring grind battles and there will always be bad players who just spam 1 or just let auto attack do it's thing, so it really doesn't make a single bit of difference in that respect.

I think some people are making mountains out of molehills with this whole auto attack announcement, anyone reading this thread would think you could just login, hit go and let the game play itself if they weren't clued up on how it actually works.

Let the devs do their thing, they are completely changing huge chucks of the gameplay by the sounds of it and that is going to take time and money. They would only be willing to spend that time and money if they really believed this would be better for what they have planned.

So chillax and wait and see the finished product before jumping to conclusions.

[gifthorse]

Meanwhile, Alexia, while you are stuck in your FFXI nostalgia mode, Guild Wars 2 and TERA gain 99% of the MMO market share because FFXIV decided that it would like to take its battle system back a step rather than keep pushing forward with it.

Lol.

Socialising during combat. That's hilarious.

[AlexiaKidd]

Meanwhile, Alexia, while you are stuck in your FFXI nostalgia mode, Guild Wars 2 and TERA gain 99% of the MMO market share because FFXIV decided that it would like to take its battle system back a step rather than keep pushing forward with it.

Lol.

Socialising during combat. That's hilarious.

Yeah because FFXIV has such a huge market share now, hell it doesn't even have as much as FFXI (which has auto attack) so what is your point?

Obviously the dev's think auto attack is necessary for the upcoming content changes and last time I checked Dev's > Gifthorse.

*yawn* next.....

[Honz]

Hopefully implementing the auto attack will remove the stamina bar. Its so frustrating to taunt/provoke when you're short on stamina. Stamina bar was a really stupid idea in the first place it pretty much limits the player to only use abilities that are considered useful, so many abilities out there that don't even get a second thought let alone be used.

[gifthorse]

Yeah because FFXIV has such a huge market share now, hell it doesn't even have as much as FFXI (which has auto attack) so what is your point?

Obviously the dev's think auto attack is necessary for the upcoming content changes and last time I checked Dev's > Gifthorse.

*yawn* next.....

All the content the developers have planned for us is purely in response to the player polls and individual player's comments/demands. SE has reached the point where they are appealing and conceding to every self-proclaimed expert rather than seeking to improve their own vision for the game. A cursory glance at the changes released so far or slated for release in the future (i.e., aggro indicator, AH, auto-attack combat) is enough to prove that they will compromise on artistic integrity and palatability just for the sake of pleasing their current players. Sadly, most of the people who still play are FFXI fanatics or WoW players, so much so that the polls are slanted in their favour, as opposed to being slanted in favour of an overall better game.

If they think a combat system centred on auto-attack is going to be a drawcard against the upcoming MMOs like Guild Wars 2 and TERA, then FFXIV has a surprise coming. Similarly, if they merely think that changing FFXIV into FFXI-2 is going to save them, then again, all they are doing is shuffling current subscribers between games, and in the end aren't gaining any revenue.

This is an artistic issue as much as a practical one. Auto-attack is boring and many players who aren't FFXI losers would agree, hence why FFXIV will fail if it seeks only to appeal to such players and not the majority.

But whatever. Enjoy your slowly degenerating game while you still can.

[Moth]

i think gifthorse is a pretty cool guy, eh creates drama and doesn’t afraid of anything.