Why do you want auto-attack? (discussion)[dev1022]

[Alcide]

The amount of fail in this post is staggering. Only the last sentence is even remotely true.

So true, actually as Archer you have to use almost no normal attacks at all in order to be effective, Multishot and Trifurcate FTW.
And if you spam normal attacks as a mage you clearely fail, you don't even have to care for the MP now...

[Dubont]

So true, actually as Archer you have to use almost no normal attacks at all in order to be effective, Multishot and Trifurcate FTW.
And if you spam normal attacks as a mage you clearely fail, you don't even have to care for the MP now...

k...Spirit Dart = 37 dmg to Great Buffalo
Thunder 2 = 38 dmg to great buffalo
Fire 2 = 31 dmg to great buffalo
Aero 2 = 42 dmg to great buffalo

Spirit Dart does more DoT than any spell that I can throw at it outside of BRs and being buffed.

[Alcide]

k...Spirit Dart = 37 dmg to Great Buffalo
Thunder 2 = 38 dmg to great buffalo
Fire 2 = 31 dmg to great buffalo
Aero 2 = 42 dmg to great buffalo

Spirit Dart does more DoT than any spell that I can throw at it outside of BRs and being buffed.

Well actually you shouldn't do nukes outside BR, why wasting MP when you know the dmg is gonna suck? Also the BR should be so quick you don't feel the need to nuke outside it. But it's much better to cast debuffs rather than spamming Spirit Dart, with the proper equip they always land and they are a great help.
With Paralyze and Syphon TP the NM can barely move and they land fine even as a Conjurer; also elemental debuffs casted before BR gives a nice boost at the dmg of the nuke, so I can't see where you find the time to spam 1 1 1 1 1 o.O

[Dubont]

Well actually you shouldn't do nukes outside BR, why wasting MP when you know the dmg is gonna suck? Also the BR should be so quick you don't feel the need to nuke outside it. But it's much better to cast debuffs rather than spamming Spirit Dart, with the proper equip they always land and they are a great help.
With Paralyze and Syphon TP the NM can barely move and they land fine even as a Conjurer; also elemental debuffs casted before BR gives a nice boost at the dmg of the nuke, so I can't see where you find the time to spam 1 1 1 1 1 o.O

Notice the spells you listed. Also notice what job uses them. Now think about what job uses most debuffs. lol Not all Con have Thm at 50 or even high enough to get decent debuffs...and since there isn't a "standard," these Cons aren't going to be in any rush to get that other job leveled =) And while, yes, the elemental debuffs are nice, you aren't seriously going to sit there and keep every elemental debuff in your bar are you? Lol there is going to be a good 2-3mins where you are just spamming 1 at some point...