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  1. #1
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    Antoine_Lenheim's Avatar
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    Antoine Lenheim
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    Twintania
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    Bard Lv 100

    The Copied Factory too easy?

    Like really. I dont know if I was that lucky but on my first run my party didnt even wipe once! I remember first days of Void Ark, "Wiping" City of Mhach, Dun Scaith, Ozma and Thunder God madnesses. People been wiping on those for first few weeks straight until they became familiar and overgeared. But it was super fun learning new raids step by step. And on my first run of Copied, a day since its release, it felt like its a month since, people already know everything and now just rush it for coin. Even first timers didnt die as much.

    Also I got used since Ozma that third boss in any 24man raid is the hardest, with exception of Rofocale maybe. Did you see that absolute joke Engels? No tricky alliance mechanics which if one party fail to do its a wipe, absolutely unintersting move sets, dodge an obvious mechanic here, dodge an obvious attack there. Compare it to first week of Ozma or first week of Thunder God. Super boring. I think even the first boss was more harder than the third.

    Overall, its a total disappointment. It looks sick from the visual side but gameplay wise just felt like a long expert roulette dungeon. I do have a slight hope though that it will redeem itself with new raids and they will have more interesting and trickier mechanics. But so far its a complete joke.
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    Last edited by Antoine_Lenheim; 11-01-2019 at 09:06 PM.

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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Yea, it really is easy. On day one I just wiped once at engels meteors because no one stepped in.

    But it's also easy because a lot more then usual farming the raid to get the coffer at the end.
    So at day 2 I had already a rind with just 1 New person in my group and 5-7 in the whole raid.
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    Jowy Khah
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    If you want a challenge, you're looking for it in the wrong content and in some ways, the wrong game.
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    Antoine Lenheim
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    Twintania
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    If you want a challenge, you're looking for it in the wrong content and in some ways, the wrong game.
    Well, its the first 24 man I’ve done at launch with zero wipes. I just wiped once at Engels meteors I think because no one stepped in. Thats it. Previous 24m raid series started with some challenging raids, now it started with a joke.
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    E4EO's Avatar
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    Samuel Wolcott
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I don't feel it's necessarily a bad thing in this context, some alliance raids can be near savage levels of difficulty if people don't know what they're doing in the context of the raid or their job, and making the raid easy mechanics wise can actually make it doable while being somewhat difficult, if you know what I mean.
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 64
    People adapt faster than others. I firmly believe though that the last half of the Walking Mechanical Tarantula with harnessed F16 is just too much for me. The "ToneRockberry" boss, I only experienced 2 of the 3 platforms, so there's a set of mechanics I've yet to experience. The "Slinky" boss, that took about 4 runs to get down.

    Tank boss is easy, I almost always die there because people drop their darn circles on top of me.
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    Last edited by Rasikko; 11-02-2019 at 06:03 AM.

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    Alloou Trick
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    Sargatanas
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    Scholar Lv 100
    My Raise skill as a healer says the difficulty here is among the hardest raids in the game. My death rate says the same. Seeing near wipes and having a healer lb 3 go off in the first fight says this raid is not easy.
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    This raid felt like there was a lot more unavoidable damage going out in the mechanics then there was in Rabanastre and thus felt quite a bit more stressful as a healer.
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    Esprit Libre
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I just did it for the first time last night. I died a ton. But the group itself never wiped once. The fights have a lot of very annoying mechanics that feel really nuts to try and do perfectly(for now), but at the same time the penalties for screwing up seem mostly individual-based and very forgiving. My deaths and screw-ups didn't seem to affect the rest of the raid's well-being at all. You can make tons of mistakes and the alliance as a whole still just keeps on chugging through the fight. Notorious raids like Weeping City and Orbonne were "difficult" only in the sense that there were certain mechanics that needed done just right or the entire raid just flat out wiped right there. I never saw anything here that was like that. And quite frankly, I don't mind that at all.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    A lot more things other players, especially tanks, can use to kill you. Other than that, though, by the sixth run or so (my loot luck is horrible), it just felt kinda... long, compared to most raids. I enjoyed it the first time, but I doubt this will be one I look forward to coming back to as I had with some of the HW and SB raids.
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