The Copied Factory too easy?

[Antoine_Lenheim]

Like really. I dont know if I was that lucky but on my first run my party didnt even wipe once! I remember first days of Void Ark, "Wiping" City of Mhach, Dun Scaith, Ozma and Thunder God madnesses. People been wiping on those for first few weeks straight until they became familiar and overgeared. But it was super fun learning new raids step by step. And on my first run of Copied, a day since its release, it felt like its a month since, people already know everything and now just rush it for coin. Even first timers didnt die as much.

Also I got used since Ozma that third boss in any 24man raid is the hardest, with exception of Rofocale maybe. Did you see that absolute joke Engels? No tricky alliance mechanics which if one party fail to do its a wipe, absolutely unintersting move sets, dodge an obvious mechanic here, dodge an obvious attack there. Compare it to first week of Ozma or first week of Thunder God. Super boring. I think even the first boss was more harder than the third.

Overall, its a total disappointment. It looks sick from the visual side but gameplay wise just felt like a long expert roulette dungeon. I do have a slight hope though that it will redeem itself with new raids and they will have more interesting and trickier mechanics. But so far its a complete joke.

[Curisu]

Yea, it really is easy. On day one I just wiped once at engels meteors because no one stepped in.

But it's also easy because a lot more then usual farming the raid to get the coffer at the end.
So at day 2 I had already a rind with just 1 New person in my group and 5-7 in the whole raid.

[JowyAtreides]

If you want a challenge, you're looking for it in the wrong content and in some ways, the wrong game.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

If you want a challenge, you're looking for it in the wrong content and in some ways, the wrong game.

Well, its the first 24 man I’ve done at launch with zero wipes. I just wiped once at Engels meteors I think because no one stepped in. Thats it. Previous 24m raid series started with some challenging raids, now it started with a joke.

[Taranok]

Well, its the first 24 man I’ve done at launch with zero wipes. I just wiped once at Engels meteors I think because no one stepped in. Thats it. Previous 24m raid series started with some challenging raids, now it started with a joke.

On the first few hours of the patch, wipes were happening regularly. Basically, the RNG coffer of frustration is floating the chances of getting a competent team, which massively reduces the chance to wipe on the raid because there's more vets than rookies running. Normally, vets stop running as soon as they get their items, but the coffer is artificially inflating that, so it's "easy."

Speaking from experience, this is the single hardest raid SE has ever launched day 1 for FFXIV. The only reason it's not even more punishing is that there's no mechanic where if a party wipes, the entire alliance is going to wipe such as on Ozma or Cid.

[Frizze]

Speaking from experience, this is the single hardest raid SE has ever launched day 1 for FFXIV. The only reason it's not even more punishing is that there's no mechanic where if a party wipes, the entire alliance is going to wipe such as on Ozma or Cid.

From my experience, day one runs of wiping city, dunce cave, ridoranna wipe-house, and we're-boned monastery were for sure harder. To me it felt a little easier then rabanasty(hashbrowns was a beast), but harder then void arc. And i remember some week 1 and 2 void arcs where cucu wrecked runs.

[E4EO]

I don't feel it's necessarily a bad thing in this context, some alliance raids can be near savage levels of difficulty if people don't know what they're doing in the context of the raid or their job, and making the raid easy mechanics wise can actually make it doable while being somewhat difficult, if you know what I mean.

[Rasikko]

People adapt faster than others. I firmly believe though that the last half of the Walking Mechanical Tarantula with harnessed F16 is just too much for me. The "ToneRockberry" boss, I only experienced 2 of the 3 platforms, so there's a set of mechanics I've yet to experience. The "Slinky" boss, that took about 4 runs to get down.

Tank boss is easy, I almost always die there because people drop their darn circles on top of me.

[Allooutrick]

My Raise skill as a healer says the difficulty here is among the hardest raids in the game. My death rate says the same. Seeing near wipes and having a healer lb 3 go off in the first fight says this raid is not easy.

[KageTokage]

This raid felt like there was a lot more unavoidable damage going out in the mechanics then there was in Rabanastre and thus felt quite a bit more stressful as a healer.