Housing changes requested

[Kuro_Mao]

1. When you drop wards for FC's don't allow transfers at that time. Give the fc's 24 hours at least.


So many people took advantage of the transfer, and is too draconian for most western culture to handle.



2. If you buy a house/transfer personal or FC there should be a 1 week hold on Purchase/Transfers on the character.


Person 1 clicking on the sign 6 hours. "What this person moved in my plot, but an hour ago they were here and didn't have a house."



Person 2 " I bought a house in xyz and then this is the plot I wanted so I transferred."

3. For the movers, can you get a checkbox to see if your house is in a state to be able to be transferred? - I know this should be obvious, but some people that play this game just don't understand it.


4. Can you get a god VFAQ going explaining all the housing rules instead of having to look through tedious and copious amounts of notes for housing?



Executive Branch: "The Plans were on display."



Person: "I had to go to a cellar."



Bonus points if you get the reference.


5. Separate the workshop from the house, and provide a link from the house if you have one to the workshop.

Person 1: "Do you have a house?
Person 2: "We're trying."
Person 1: "But that means you have to buy stuff of MB if you want it for certain things."
Person 2: "Yes we are at a great disadvantage, but that doesn't mean we can't have a good time as an FC."
Person 1: "Sorry but I'll look elsewhere for an FC."


^ The above is actually the long way
TLDR: TY SE for making this overly complicated and Draconian that maybe 5% of the player base knows how to manipulate the system. I know I took advantage of it, but I can't figure out why the rest of the players didn't? Can we make this a bit easier for the masses? I want them to be just as happy as I am.

[Jojoya]

1. Don't have any real objections to a small delay before relocations are also allowed.

2. The other player camping the plot had the same opportunity to buy then relocate if they wanted that plot so badly. There's no reason to put in that sort of restriction.

3. Go to Estate Settings, check Storeroom Status. It will indicate if the house is within the relocation item limit. I did that for our FC last week and put all the excess items on an alt's retainers before we relocated on Tuesday.

4. Poor Arthur Dent. On the other hand, the vast majority of information a player needs to know is found at the Resident Caretaker and the "Where the Heart is" quests do suggest talking to one. It's not hidden in a basement file cabinet.

5. Separating the workshop from the house and adding the entrance to the FC's affliate Grand Company Headquaters (just like Squadron barracks) would be a positive step. Many FCs only want the house for access to the workshop and would be happy without a house if they could get to the workshop otherwise.

Only thing that is going to make this easier for the masses is to completely overhaul the housing system in some way, most likely through adding instanced house plots. Considering the age of this game, SE has to debate if it's worth their time and effort. Personally I think they can do it - the apartment system is already a foundation to work from. Have a entry portal lead to the instanced plot just as the apartment building is the entry portal into an apartment.

[ICountFrom0]

I really don't get it, why would they limit it to "only FC" and then allow anybody to transfer in. Smells like a bug to me.

[Jojoya]

I really don't get it, why would they limit it to "only FC" and then allow anybody to transfer in. Smells like a bug to me.

It's not a bug. They allow relocations because someone relocating doesn't reduce the total number of open plots on a world.

I have yet to hear of any FCs ready to buy on Tuesday that have not been able to buy at all. I've only heard complaints about FCs not being able to get their preferred plot. At least they were able to buy something on Tuesday and that opens the door to being able to relocate to their preferred plot when it becomes available in the future.

[ICountFrom0]

It's not a bug. They allow relocations because someone relocating doesn't reduce the total number of open plots on a world.

I have yet to hear of any FCs ready to buy on Tuesday that have not been able to buy at all. I've only heard complaints about FCs not being able to get their preferred plot. At least they were able to buy something on Tuesday and that opens the door to being able to relocate to their preferred plot when it becomes available in the future.

Yha. Nope.

They said "FC ONLY" this caused it to not be "FC ONLY" so, I say it looks like a bug.

You can justify it any way you like, but what happened failed to be what was intended.

Oh, and I'm from one of the FC's who couldn't get into the new housing. Hyperion. Less then 10 minutes, sold out.

[Jojoya]

Yha. Nope.

They said "FC ONLY" this caused it to not be "FC ONLY" so, I say it looks like a bug.

You can justify it any way you like, but what happened failed to be what was intended.

Oh, and I'm from one of the FC's who couldn't get into the new housing. Hyperion. Less then 10 minutes, sold out.

They said purchase was limited to FCs only in the new wards.

They then specifically stated that personal and FC houses could be relocated to the new wards. Purchase and relocation are 2 different things according to SE.

I'm not justifying anything. I'm simply telling you it's not a bug. It was working as SE intended, even if it's not what you wanted.

Hyperion has several houses available for purchase in the new wards right now. This is the first thing I saw when I made a quick visit to Hyperion with my Lamia alt:



So are we back to you couldn't buy a house at all, or you couldn't buy what you wanted?

[Nix]

They said purchase was limited to FCs only in the new wards.

They then specifically stated that personal and FC houses could be relocated to the new wards. Purchase and relocation are 2 different things according to SE.

I'm not justifying anything. I'm simply telling you it's not a bug. It was working as SE intended, even if it's not what you wanted.

Hyperion has several houses available for purchase in the new wards right now. This is the first thing I saw when I made a quick visit to Hyperion with my Lamia alt:



So are we back to you couldn't buy a house at all, or you couldn't buy what you wanted?

Also on Hyperion - there are TONS of houses available in the new wards; all smalls, but they're definitely available.

[ICountFrom0]

They said purchase was limited to FCs only in the new wards.

They then specifically stated that personal and FC houses could be relocated to the new wards. Purchase and relocation are 2 different things according to SE.

Lets see:

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

Official housing website.

"At the time of Patch 5.1's release, the newly added plots of land will only be available for purchase as free company property."

No mention of being able to get there solo in any way shape or form.

Thus, bug.

You can say, "no, intended" as much as you like, but it doesn't look that way to me.

[Losara]

1) Agree that the 24 hour window for FCs to buy/relocate in the new wards first before individuals can makes sense. Its reasonable and allows FCs to upgrade from a small to a medium or large since many would have been waiting a long time to do so since the previous batch of wards were released.

2) I would like relocations to allow for the previous timer to carry across to the plot that was relocated out of. This means whoever was waiting for the previous plot has less time to wait at least until the other plot will open.

3) I would also like the relocation indicator to be easier to see. Perhaps a big tick or a cross that is above housing placards so you know whether you can relocate into it or not. This could also be used to indicate whether a housing timer has completed or not.

4) It would be good there was a consolidated official guide to housing but there are plenty of videos around explaining bits and pieces.

[rattles]

For No. 1 No its a terrible idea just because you own a fc doesnt mean you should be allowed to own every medium and large in the game thats unfair to everyone else and personally I dont care about your fc's small social circle. There are also plently of smalls for your fc that didnt bother to try grab a property at launch.
For No. 2 I dont see why this should be implemented people buy smalls to buy larger later on putting a delay wont stop most people it will just punish those who where lucky to get a house right before patch especially 7 days why not 12 hours or something.
For No. 3 There are checkboxes if you have the two green ticks your good to go unless you have chocobo stables then just make sure you dont have any stored.
For No. 4 I mean they could make it clearer but the patch notes where pretty clear individuals where not allowed to purchase the plots and in red writing underneath it said transfers where ok (as they are giving back a piece of land which is fair stop being an entitled fc that demands a large)\
For No. 5 Sure I guess or you could just by a small there's still loads of them.

Kind Regards

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